I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Aug 30, 2021 2:12:09 pm PDT #8853 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I understand, Epic. It's a turvy topsy world.


DavidS - Aug 30, 2021 5:03:39 pm PDT #8854 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Looks like they've evacuated all of South Lake Tahoe in advance of the Caldor Fire. JZ's family has a summer home there, right on the water. It was her grandfather's place where she grew up spending summers there. Her uncle owns it now (not his primary residence) and the whole family uses it from time to time. The way the fire's going now, I'm not sure it's going to survive.

You can see the fireline encroaching on the south end of the lake on this map: [link]


askye - Aug 30, 2021 5:33:16 pm PDT #8855 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

Oh I'm so sorry. I'm glad no one lives there but after JZ's dad's house burning I just...this feels like the worst timeline.


JZ - Aug 30, 2021 9:09:31 pm PDT #8856 of 30000
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Thanks, askye, but I feel... weirdly indifferent. The house hasn't been *the* house in a very long time. At first it was one of only three houses on the block and whenever we went up there were acres of open fields to wander through, or plop down in and hide in the long grass and listen to summer insects, or make snow angels and watch the dog go bonkers with delight in the winter. Then all the other houses came crowding in and although there was still that breathtaking view from the back, from the front it just looked like a suburban neighborhood in Anywhere, USA (except for the big rusting anchor my grandfather, the sailor, had plonked into a hillock of tanbark--that was un-suburban and eccentric).

Then after my grandfather died the house went to my uncle, and his wife took down a bunch of what she considered to be junk and hung up a bunch of quilts, and they both ditched about 2/3 of the books, and all but about 20 of the owls Nana had spent a lifetime collecting, and all her encouraging Alcoholics Anonymous placards, and a lot of the family photos and all the vintage magazines and and and. It's a large, reasonably well-appointed, nice place to go if you're well-off and want easy access to the lake in summer and the slopes in winter, but it's not a place for kids to ramble and explore and loaf around aimlessly reading trashy novels and going over all their parents' and grandparents' childhood treasures and all the ephemera a summer place gathers. It's just a lot of beds and a kitchen.

I still have *the* house in my head; it's the only place it still exists. Whether or not this place goes up, I'll still have it. I just hate the thought of all the people who live there year round losing their true and real houses.


Laura - Aug 31, 2021 6:46:01 am PDT #8857 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Dang, JZ. Now I have warm nostalgic feelings about the house! Yes, all the loss from fires in recent years is heartbreaking. My mom used to have a hurricane box that she would pack up before she would leave for NY for the summer. She would let people know that if a hurricane was coming grab the box.

Uplifting election news. Received my usual newsletter from the Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections. It was filled with their Back to School news concerning education and registration projects for the school system. Yes, the Blue counties of Florida doing all they can to get people registered and voting. It takes some work to thwart the GOP leadership in the state but it is good to see my county doing what they can. I expect Broward is as well.


-t - Aug 31, 2021 9:40:37 am PDT #8858 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Huh. The minimum payment on my student loan has tripled. I wonder what that's about.


Tom Scola - Aug 31, 2021 9:49:28 am PDT #8859 of 30000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Do You Qualify For $8.7 Billion Of Student Loan Forgiveness?


Cass - Aug 31, 2021 9:59:58 am PDT #8860 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

then Thursday visiting Watkins Glen [link] on the way back.
On my bucket list.

My sister and her family have been under mandatory evacuation from the fire in South Lake Tahoe. So far they are safe. It’ll be sad if they lose the house but at least they will be alive.


askye - Aug 31, 2021 10:03:45 am PDT #8861 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

JZ I get that. That's happened to some of the beach cottages at "my beach". One got torn down becasue it was too small (it legit was ) and got rebuilt into an ugly soul less monster house that spends most of it's time being an AirBnB type thing.


-t - Aug 31, 2021 11:19:56 am PDT #8862 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sorry for your sister's family, Cass. Glad they are safe, but needing to evacuate is pretty rough all on it's own.

Do You Qualify For $8.7 Billion Of Student Loan Forgiveness?

Signs point to no. Presumably some forbearance or temporary relief has expired that I forgot about. Fortunately I was super frugal all August and can pay the extra without too much difficulty but as an ongoing expense this is gonna suck. I would really like for "Payday" to not be "Pay bills and cry day"