But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Dec 10, 2020 7:46:53 am PST #875 of 30000
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I threw A FIT when our families (extended) decided to do Thanksgiving dinner at a cafeteria. This was when I was in college.

I am still the biggest Traditionalist in our family WRT Thanksgiving dinner and watching the parade and if we are all together playing board or card games and watching football somewhere in the house. I do not care one whit about Christmas dinner. I DO care about having Christmas decorations up and at some point watching certain Christmas shows, but not so much about how the actual day goes.


-t - Dec 10, 2020 7:52:54 am PST #876 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's an interesting perspective, meara. I feel like my family didn't have much in the way of tradition - we'd celebrate every year but maybe very differently from one year to the next. Although when I was a young child we were probably more consistent, but none of that really carried on to be something we have to do, or not that I can think of


-t - Dec 10, 2020 7:54:29 am PST #877 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Y'all. My boss is trying to tell me how to do my job and I am irrationally angry about it.

Rationally, I realize this is him doing his job. But still.


Jessica - Dec 10, 2020 7:56:22 am PST #878 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've been the quiet but firm voice of "nobody actually likes eating this so let's start a new tradition" in my extended family for YEARS. The trick is to only replace one menu item at a time, so every year still *feels* like exactly what we ate last year minus that one thing nobody will actually miss.


Glamcookie - Dec 10, 2020 7:56:28 am PST #879 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Micromanaging sucks.


Glamcookie - Dec 10, 2020 7:57:09 am PST #880 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

What do you make, Jessica, and how do you change it up? What's your ultimate dinner goal?


Jessica - Dec 10, 2020 7:57:53 am PST #881 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Micromanaging sucks.

I know this was in response to -t, but I'm laughing because actually micromanaging my family is NECESSARY and FUN in order to get what I want at holiday dinners.


Jessica - Dec 10, 2020 8:01:04 am PST #882 of 30000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What do you make, Jessica, and how do you change it up? What's your ultimate dinner goal?

This year would have been the ultimate victory (duck instead of turkey at Thanksgiving) if we'd had the chance to gather, but mostly it's been a subtle shift away from dairy-heavy white foods and towards a wider variety of vegetables. (Nobody likes creamed onions, Dad! They don't make good leftovers!)


lisah - Dec 10, 2020 8:11:57 am PST #883 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Agile works better than anything else, IME (which is 20+ years in the tech world mostly as a writer). You just have to be real flexible about what it means and be all up in everyone's business.


Amy - Dec 10, 2020 8:14:33 am PST #884 of 30000
Because books.

Did anyone ever like creamed onions? My paternal grandmother used to make them, and they just sat there, sort of solidifying into a big gloopy mess in their bowl.

We used to do turkey for both Thanksgiving and Christmas until I convinced my mother that this was one turkey too many, and too close together. We do a filet now, which is so much better. My dad still insists on pumpkin pie at both, though.