She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.

Willow ,'Help'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Dec 10, 2020 6:10:12 am PST #865 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh no, Shir, I'm sorry to hear that! It must be awful for both of you.


Glamcookie - Dec 10, 2020 6:40:17 am PST #866 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I'm sorry, Shir.

Agile is one of those things that sounds great but in practice rarely works the way it's supposed to. As someone said, especially with regard to tech writing. Dev gets through the end of the sprint to be done, which means writers don't see the final feature until the end of the sprint. But docs are supposed to be done by the end of the sprint. Had this convo 1.5 million times at my previous workplace. Ugh.

For Christmas, we are doing a full turkey dinner as we didn't for T'giving and my kids were very upset about it. Mind you, they NEVER eat the turkey dinner, so I have no idea. I guess just that everything is different because of COVID - we had one child leave the table in tears (even though we made one of his faves - lasagna) and the other ask where the turkey was. They also wanted to eat in the dining room rather than kitchen, which we did and was fine but again - unexpected. Trying not to make the same mistakes for Christmas.


sj - Dec 10, 2020 6:47:19 am PST #867 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Glam, kids love to confuse their parents, especially wrt food. ltc will love something one day and call it "ewwwwy" the next.


Glamcookie - Dec 10, 2020 7:06:21 am PST #868 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

sj, I predict that my youngest will have one bite of everything and then ask for a hot dog. My oldest may have a bite of mashed potatoes, dressing, and turkey, and the ask for a cheese quesadilla. Have kids, they said...


JenP - Dec 10, 2020 7:06:36 am PST #869 of 30000

I'm sorry, Shir.

Glam, that reminds me of two things: I think my sister once suggested something slightly different to her boys (at the time; they are men now) abut the timing for Christmas - I don't know, maybe open some presents and home, then go to Oma's? - apparently the older one looked at her as if she were speaking another language and said, very definitively, "Chrismas. Is. At. Oma's." This is the same one who, in his mid-twenties, looked askance at some fancied up version of green bean casserole and mumbled, "Thanksgiving is not the time to experiment." Surprised he didn't break out into "Tradition!" from Fiddler.


sj - Dec 10, 2020 7:08:43 am PST #870 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

sj, I predict that my youngest will have one bite of everything and then ask for a hot dog. My oldest may have a bite of mashed potatoes, dressing, and turkey, and the ask for a cheese quesadilla. Have kids, they said...

ltc will almost definitely eat the lasagna and probably the calamari and shrimp on Christmas Eve because those have been consistent favorites for her. But on Thanksgiving she had one bite of turkey and some cranberry sauce and asked for pie.


Glamcookie - Dec 10, 2020 7:09:00 am PST #871 of 30000
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

LOL, JenP! Kids are weird.


Dana - Dec 10, 2020 7:11:51 am PST #872 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I didn't think I cared that much until one year my MIL suggested making fish for some holiday.


JenP - Dec 10, 2020 7:14:13 am PST #873 of 30000

But on Thanksgiving she had one bite of turkey and some cranberry sauce and asked for pie.

Ha! I'm not saying I'd sometimes like to do the same thing. But I'm not not saying it.


meara - Dec 10, 2020 7:14:46 am PST #874 of 30000

I’ve been chatting a lot with a friend who grew up jehovas witness and therefore didn’t celebrate any holidays, and she was like “having been through visiting with a lot of friends and exes, y’all think you don’t have traditions but you DO because I’d try to suggest something and people would be horrified”