Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Aug 19, 2021 2:43:16 pm PDT #8563 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yikes. That is a lot, Steph. One thing, though. Is your dad likely to be carrying when he goes out? Maybe keeping one in his car? Because that might make it difficult to get all of his guns. You can probably get the shotgun, though.


DavidS - Aug 19, 2021 3:54:43 pm PDT #8564 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Turns out the manufacturer is Zoul. Now I'm afraid to connect them to my computer.

Ha! There is only Zoul!


Steph L. - Aug 19, 2021 4:00:22 pm PDT #8565 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

My brother is going to fly in Saturday evening, and Sunday we're going to get the guns from Dad. My brother's FiL has a gun safe and will keep Dad's guns.

This is a better plan than just me and Tim handling it, because (1) my brother is a gun owner and is therefore far more qualified to handle guns than we are (or Dad is, for that matter), and (2) Jeff's training and experience as a therapist is going to be good to deal with Dad's general mental state (or, as my brother put it, "I am a mandated reporter, and I won't hesitate to have Dad involuntarily admitted for a 72-hour psychiatric hold if he needs it").

Dad's going to be really pissed. But better that than him shooting someone, or himself, or getting shot by the police.


-t - Aug 19, 2021 4:11:47 pm PDT #8566 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That’s good, Tep. A sound plan.


Cashmere - Aug 19, 2021 4:16:00 pm PDT #8567 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Teppy, unfortunately, there are no Red Flag gun laws in Ohio.

Getting him put on a 72 hour psych hold may allow you to remove the guns, but he could, technically, report them as stolen.

Not sure what the legal pathway is if he doesn’t surrender them voluntarily.


Laura - Aug 19, 2021 4:21:16 pm PDT #8568 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

A sound plan. I hope he is cooperative.


Steph L. - Aug 19, 2021 4:25:04 pm PDT #8569 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Not sure what the legal pathway is if he doesn’t surrender them voluntarily.

Well, our plan is vigilantism anyway. I'm really not trying to be glib; our plan is to tell him he needs to give up his guns, and if he refuses, we're going to take them anyway. And I guess he can report them as stolen if he wants, but we still really have to get them out of his hands.


Sheryl - Aug 19, 2021 4:45:02 pm PDT #8570 of 30000
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timeliess all!

Good luck, Steph! That's a lot to deal with.

We got back yesterday from CT. Mostly a good trip, though neither Gary nor I slept well. Also too much food, but that's a given with my parents.


Jesse - Aug 19, 2021 4:49:07 pm PDT #8571 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Glad your brother is coming, Steph.

I know it's also a lot but could you or your brother check with your Dad's doctor. At least to let him know the hallucinations have started again. I don't know if there is anything he could do but he probably needs to know this in case it's not medicine causing them.

What I've heard on this is: your father's doctor can't tell you anything, but it can be good for you to tell them stuff. Which makes sense.


Pix - Aug 19, 2021 6:46:36 pm PDT #8572 of 30000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

Holy crap, Tep! That's so much. I'm glad your brother is able to come out.