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Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Jul 01, 2021 5:20:57 pm PDT #7464 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One other tip I'm doing lately...

I get a whole roasted chicken (Gus's Market on Haight has the most flavorful locally). After I eat the thighs and drumsticks for a couple meals, I break the bird down, and make a pot of really flavorful chicken stock, using the bones, carcass, skin etc. so the stock has body and flavor. I make mine with a lot of lemon and garlic.

Anyway, with the stock on hand I can make a quick soup for lunch. I already have the breast meat cut up, so I can just do a meat and broth, and then I can tweak it one way or another. I can add more lemon and Sriracha for a hot and sour flavor. I can add curry and Greek yogurt for another vibe. I can sautee some mushrooms and whatever veg I like, then add the stock and chicken.

The point of this is to have a very easy high protein meal, no noodles or rice in the soup. But by keeping the stock fairly simple, I can flavor it in different ways so it's not the same every day. You can sautee veg, or you can add frozen broccoli or peas. Or corn. You can put baby spinach in the bowl and just pour the hot broth over it. Put green onions on top if you want a ramen vibe. Or a jammy egg, or some porkbelly etc.

Again, it's simple, flavorful, easy to vary it from meal to meal, and very quick to cook. Especially if you use some of those pre-sliced veg sets at Whole Foods or Trader Joe's. I get the stir fry with asparagus and put that in my soup instead.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2021 5:22:28 pm PDT #7465 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Meaty, no bean chili

Why no beans? I know they're protein-y; are they also carb-y?


Topic!Cindy - Jul 01, 2021 5:29:59 pm PDT #7466 of 30000
What is even happening?

sumi, thank you for sharing your good news!


Dana - Jul 01, 2021 6:17:44 pm PDT #7467 of 30000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Beans are carby, yes.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2021 6:20:34 pm PDT #7468 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Beans are carby, yes.

I honestly never really thought about that. My brain gets as far as "beans = protein and also yum" and then stops. I guess they would be carby. Huh.


DavidS - Jul 01, 2021 6:43:10 pm PDT #7469 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's funny because I've gone from making a vegetarian black bean chili with meatless ground soy for JZ, to flipping around and doing the all meaty chili.

A wreath of beef/pork chili around a fried egg? Superb!


shrift - Jul 01, 2021 6:46:17 pm PDT #7470 of 30000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Thank you, David! I do enjoy Greek yogurt, and I appreciate the reminder about eating oat bran in the morning. I'll start experimenting with savory options tomorrow morning.


Jesse - Jul 01, 2021 6:46:47 pm PDT #7471 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

If you need a bean and are willing to have some carbs, black soy beans are your go-to.


Steph L. - Jul 01, 2021 6:46:54 pm PDT #7472 of 30000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

A wreath of beef/pork chili around a fried egg? Superb!

One of the chili places here allegedly makes a 6-way, which is a 5-way* topped with a fried egg. I am intrigued.

*5-way = chili over spaghetti with cheese, beans, and onions.


DavidS - Jul 01, 2021 7:08:41 pm PDT #7473 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

One of the chili places here allegedly makes a 6-way, which is a 5-way* topped with a fried egg. I am intrigued.

Remove noodles, add egg, voila!

Thank you, David!

You're most welcome. I posted some pix on your FB page.

IF you decide to get into a more aggressive weight loss approach I can give tips on what worked for me. The good thing about going with a high protein/ketosis approach is that you don't ever really have to be hungry.

Lately I've been missing Reuben sandwiches, so I've been doing hot pastrami with sauteed onions and melted cheese. It's not AS good because toasted rye bread is fantastic, but hot pastrami is fabulous in its own right.

It's weird how much the Food Pyramid we grew up with was a Big Damned Lie.