How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


smonster - Nov 22, 2023 5:52:30 am PST #26975 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I’m afraid I have not great news of my own, at least in the short run.

In short, over the last few days, I have realized that R is massively emotionally manipulative and has been taking advantage of me. I happened to listen to a podcast about financial coercive control, and parts sounded a little too familiar.

The last couple of days, I’ve had an absolute cascade of realizations and finally started asking friends their opinions. (Shoutout to Vortex for having a two-hour convo with me about it last night while I was tripping balls on Spravato).

I’m still trying to process this and figure out what to do next. A bunch of my shit and my cat are up at the cabin. Robby wants to talk and I am holding off on that for now. I don’t know what to say to them.

After an absolute crazy year, this may be the thing that breaks me for a minute. I did get a lot of support from R and there were (past tense, hmm) very good things about the relationship.

I was thinking maybe it was all unconscious, but then I remembered that they are a master dog trainer and a social media whiz at creating a compelling story. So.


Jesse - Nov 22, 2023 6:13:46 am PST #26976 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oof, that's a lot, smonster. Wishing you clarity.

All of my best thoughts to you and your family, lisah.

Glad there's a temporary ceasefire, at least, but I know that's not enough.


Jessica - Nov 22, 2023 6:46:55 am PST #26977 of 30000
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

{{lisah}}

smonster, what a shitty situation. I hope you're able to navigate your way to a better place.


JenP - Nov 22, 2023 6:58:04 am PST #26978 of 30000

Well, shit, smonster. That is awful. I'm sorry. Like, Jesse said, I wish you clarity.


Shir - Nov 22, 2023 7:25:58 am PST #26979 of 30000
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh smonster, I am so, so sorry. {{{}}}


-t - Nov 22, 2023 7:43:02 am PST #26980 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, smonster, I’m sorry.


Pix - Nov 22, 2023 7:48:20 am PST #26981 of 30000
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

((((lisah)))) I can't add any words of wisdom, but I'm holding you in my heart.

Continued love and support to Nilly and Shir.

((((smonster)))) I'm sorry you're dealing with that. I do think getting away from emotional or financial manipulation (aka abuse) is crucial for your well-being. I hope you can take someone with you when you go to get your things, which it sounds like you are planning to do. Hang in there.


lisah - Nov 22, 2023 8:04:17 am PST #26982 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Oh, smonster, I’m so sorry but I’m glad you’re recognizing what’s going on and taking care of yourself.


Laura - Nov 22, 2023 8:29:35 am PST #26983 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

I'm so sorry, smonster. Be gentle with yourself.


-t - Nov 22, 2023 9:02:53 am PST #26984 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Very glad you are looking out or your own wellbeing, smonster