You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 02, 2023 7:18:32 pm PDT #26567 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Look at how I'm not flipping out about this shit! Although I reserve the right to flip out later.


DavidS - Nov 02, 2023 7:43:59 pm PDT #26568 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Look at how I'm not flipping out about this shit! Although I reserve the right to flip out later.

You've grown as a non-flippy person!

I'm still getting used to having my own washer and dryer. May your new dryer be awesome and affordable!

Took my niece to the airport today after a five day stay. She spent three years being my sister's primary caretaker during chemo and doctor appointments etc. as a full time nurse managing two clinics and a single mother of two.

She really needed a break and she soaked it all up. She was completely happy to get a coffee and sit in the Panhandle of GG Park and watch folks walk their dogs and people riding their combo/parenting bikes taking their kids to preschool.

Took her to Alembic last night and Emmett met us there and they just naturally vibed with each other. Lots of laughs and smiles.


Steph L. - Nov 02, 2023 8:03:25 pm PDT #26569 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

May your new dryer be awesome and affordable!

Tim is insisting on calling the repair guy, but I think it's optimistic. That dryer is potentially 30 years old. I'm happy getting a new one.

She really needed a break and she soaked it all up. She was completely happy to get a coffee and sit in the Panhandle of GG Park and watch folks walk their dogs and people riding their combo/parenting bikes taking their kids to preschool.

Took her to Alembic last night and Emmett met us there and they just naturally vibed with each other. Lots of laughs and smiles.

I'm so glad it was a good visit!


DavidS - Nov 02, 2023 8:36:27 pm PDT #26570 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Sheesh, it's 8:35 and it feels like I've been up for 19 hours.

(I have not. Maybe 12.)

I'm so glad it was a good visit!

I'm going to fly her out regular because it's good for both of us. Maybe quarterly.


JenP - Nov 02, 2023 11:38:53 pm PDT #26571 of 30000

Great to hear about your niece's visit and that it will be a regular thing.

I woke up with indigestion, what? That's new. Let's call it a one-off. Just took some Tums, and now I'm going.to wait it out.


Laura - Nov 03, 2023 3:38:21 am PDT #26572 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Middle of the night indigestion sucks. Hope it settled down and you were able to sleep.

So good that you and your niece had the time together.

I should sleep in, but my mind won't stop with the travel details. Like I portioned out food baggies for the animals and put them in a bag for the car, but apparently it landed in another bag or box, and who knows which one. I just hope it isn't too far into the trunk. Sigh. Have to bundle up and dig through.


JenP - Nov 03, 2023 6:38:56 am PDT #26573 of 30000

Ugh, what a pain, Laura, after all the luggage Tetris. Hope you found 'em and that you're off to a good start

Happy to report that I was asleep again in an hour. Did not want to get out of bed this morning, though, I tell you what.


Calli - Nov 03, 2023 8:12:52 am PDT #26574 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm glad your niece's visit was a good one, Hec.

I haven’t used other things than Teams—what’s better? What is awful?

My department uses Slack, with a Zoom integration for video calls when requested. We feel the UX and customation options are far superior to Teams, and we have a much broader set of integrations available.


DavidS - Nov 03, 2023 8:45:47 am PDT #26575 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My niece got back home safely where it was apparently in the 20s in Georgia.

Matilda is back to school after being home sick for a couple days.

It's a glorious day in SF, and I'm about to get back to my running, which should have an uninterrupted stretch of days for a while.

Can't believe we're already in Thanksgiving planning mode.


-t - Nov 03, 2023 8:47:50 am PDT #26576 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

We use gmail and associated chat, calendar, etc, and Zoom (including our office extensions are actually Zoom phones and the conference rooms are all integrated with Zoom). It's fine, switching between Google meetings and Zoom calls can be confusing because the controls are very similar but not quite the same, but both do the job. None of us make full use of either, I don't think. One of my co-workers only opens Zoom when she has a scheduled call, which to me would be like shoving your desk phone in a drawer all the time, but she figures everyone has her cell number anyway. Although mostly no one calls, almost everything is an email unless it's a meeting or maybe a chat (and our meetings generally would not be better as emails, which I am always grateful to note). My only exposure to Teams was that BB&B kept trying to send us meeting invites through it and that never worked, but since they went bankrupt I haven't had to think about it at all.