Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Nov 03, 2023 8:47:50 am PDT #26576 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

We use gmail and associated chat, calendar, etc, and Zoom (including our office extensions are actually Zoom phones and the conference rooms are all integrated with Zoom). It's fine, switching between Google meetings and Zoom calls can be confusing because the controls are very similar but not quite the same, but both do the job. None of us make full use of either, I don't think. One of my co-workers only opens Zoom when she has a scheduled call, which to me would be like shoving your desk phone in a drawer all the time, but she figures everyone has her cell number anyway. Although mostly no one calls, almost everything is an email unless it's a meeting or maybe a chat (and our meetings generally would not be better as emails, which I am always grateful to note). My only exposure to Teams was that BB&B kept trying to send us meeting invites through it and that never worked, but since they went bankrupt I haven't had to think about it at all.


NoiseDesign - Nov 03, 2023 11:23:44 am PDT #26577 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

My department uses Slack, with a Zoom integration for video calls when requested. We feel the UX and customation options are far superior to Teams, and we have a much broader set of integrations available.

We use Slack, Zoom, and then the Google office suite. It works pretty well for us. Slack is the real key to it for us.


Cashmere - Nov 03, 2023 11:35:58 am PDT #26578 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

My husband LOATHES Teams.


NoiseDesign - Nov 03, 2023 11:49:32 am PDT #26579 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

Yeah, we have to use it with some of our bigger clients. Trust me, the only thing worse that teams, is using teams when you are an external client.


lisah - Nov 03, 2023 11:51:46 am PDT #26580 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Trust me, the only thing worse that teams, is using teams when you are an external client.

Ugh yes! That’s been me as well.


smonster - Nov 03, 2023 1:54:52 pm PDT #26581 of 30000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Hello, my lovelies. I keep catching up and then being too overwhelmed to Meara and suddenly without words of my own.

So: continued love to Nilly and Shir, and various assorted ~mas as needed.

I’m so glad you’ve got some time to yourself, Hec.

My psych uses Teams for our sessions, and it’s a pain. That’s all I have on software suites. My complaints are all about Contractor Foreman and ClickUp.

My mental shitstorm has somewhat subsided for the time being. Mostly, I think, because 1) R and I had our biggest tiff to date and got through it pretty well and, relatedly, their new job started 11/1 so there will be money soon! Relatively lots more money. So they can catch up on bills and I can rebuild my emergency fund and hopefully we can get on some kind of budget thing going forward, which will be a new adventure for R. I use YNAB and I’m hoping they will, too.

My body has been semi-well-behaved this week. Here’s hoping I can get some stuff done this weekend - both living places are pretty messy and I hate not knowing where anything is.

What are other folks doing this weekend? We’re also hoping to go hiking or something with the boys.


Atropa - Nov 03, 2023 1:57:14 pm PDT #26582 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I will accept having to use Teams with outside vendors if it means I never have to try to build and updated content and sites using Salesforce. I want to burn all of Salesforce to the ground.


NoiseDesign - Nov 03, 2023 1:59:45 pm PDT #26583 of 30000
Our wings are not tired

Salesforce is made from pure evil.

What are other folks doing this weekend

I'm working until at least midnight tonight. Tomorrow night I'm have a few friends over to drink whiskey. And around all of that just trying to stay ahead of the curve on the piles of work and stress.


Atropa - Nov 03, 2023 2:04:14 pm PDT #26584 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

What are other folks doing this weekend

Probably unpacking more boxes. I want the front room cleared by early December so we can actually have a Christmas tree this year.


lisah - Nov 03, 2023 2:16:01 pm PDT #26585 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

We’re staying at my aunt and uncle’s place in Lewes, DE for a little vacation weekend. Went on a bike ride today and we’re meeting up with my cousin and his wife for oysters tonight.