Say! look at you! You look just like me! We're very pretty.

Buffybot ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Aug 22, 2023 8:02:59 am PDT #24256 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I have a very clear memory of a post Hec wrote, maybe right after "The Body" first aired? About the physical presence of life.

He wrote about his mother dying, and about his son being born, and connected the opposites of what he felt in these life-defining moments. And that post "stayed" with me all those years, so vividly.

Yes, when my mother died I came in and laid my hand on her body, on her chest and felt her stillness. The absence of animating breath. Mortal clay. And when Emmett was born (and also Matilda) I rested my hand on their chests, feeling the rising and falling of their breath, their little hearts that Jacqueline has written so eloquently about.

If you look through enough pictures of me at signal events, you will see me putting my hand on my father's chest at my wedding, or JZ's.


Laura - Aug 22, 2023 8:22:46 am PDT #24257 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

Yay Arthur and another step toward Buffista world domination. Good size baby there!

So good to hear that Tim nearly has this ordeal of back pain behind him. Great to hear he is doing well with recovery.

He wrote about his mother dying, and about his son being born, and connected the opposites of what he felt in these life-defining moments.

Yes, I remember this as well. Life defining indeed.

In melancholy news, today is my son Bobby's 29th birthday. He never responded to my reaching out to him a year ago, and I am just not up to being rejected once again this year, so I am not doing anything. It has been 2-1/2 years since I saw him. His first son was only 4 months old then. He'll be 3 in December. I've never seen my second grandson who was born earlier this year. I'm thinking maybe by the time he is 30 he will grow the hell up and realize that his 70 year old mother won't be around forever and actually contact me. eta: He was named after my nephew Bobby who died at 23, and as I sit here with my sister, his mother, I know being estranged isn't the worst thing.


askye - Aug 22, 2023 8:41:53 am PDT #24258 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

I put a card in the mail for Jacqueline and David, it went out...today I think based on when I dropped it in the mail. I posted on facebook because I had really wanted to do something and struggled and then found "effulgent" in a dictionary after the Zoom call and was able to add it in. Felt like the thing that was needed.

I know it's very late in getting this out but I kept struggling with the right thing.

Laura, I'm sorry I can't imagine how hard this is.

Arthur!! YAY baby!


Amy - Aug 22, 2023 9:31:34 am PDT #24259 of 30000
Because books.

Excellent Tim news! Recuperating from surgery like that is no joke.

Chiming in with the others, Tom. I don't think our brains do a lot of subconscious gaslighting or minimizing, and I think substituting JZ (possibly! who really knows?) for something that gives you a beautiful voice in the world is fitting.

In other news, it took a year, but work finally made me cry. (Although it might have more to do with hateful sinuses and a wretched headache.)


Calli - Aug 22, 2023 9:44:04 am PDT #24260 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Welcome to the world, Arthur! (Sorry about the bits that are on fire, but we’re working on that.)


-t - Aug 22, 2023 10:00:15 am PDT #24261 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Welcome Arthur!

Sorry about the upsetting dream, Tom. Subconsciouses can be right bastards.


Laura - Aug 22, 2023 10:11:42 am PDT #24262 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.

(Sorry about the bits that are on fire, but we’re working on that.)

Seriously, I hope some progress is made before he has to step up.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 22, 2023 10:12:55 am PDT #24263 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Welcome Arthur! And congratulations, Debet and family!


Atropa - Aug 22, 2023 10:37:14 am PDT #24264 of 30000
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

New baby! Welcome to the world, Arthur!


Cashmere - Aug 22, 2023 10:44:56 am PDT #24265 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

Welcome, Arthur! I love that new human smell.

Jacqueline is in her bed. On morphine. She is surrounded by a circle of her closest women friends and Matilda. And they are all talking and getting drunk.

I’m putting this down in my advance directive.