Stop means no. And no means no. So . . . stop.

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Cass - Feb 09, 2023 4:49:54 pm PST #20563 of 30000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

This supplement has helped me a LOT with hot flashes: [link] It took about 6-8 weeks to really notice an effect, but since then it's been great.

Relink? Is broken.

My hot flashes and bonus night sweats are getting to be a little too much to tolerate. I've tried to ride it out but I started perimenopause in February of 2010. Thirteen years is too long for this.


Steph L. - Feb 09, 2023 4:51:44 pm PST #20564 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Relink? Is broken.

Give this a shot: [link]


dcp - Feb 09, 2023 5:23:51 pm PST #20565 of 30000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

From Steph's link: "...contains geniVida, KSM-66 Ashwagandha, DIM, Dong Quai, Black Cohosh."

I dunno about the rest of the ingredients, but several members of my prostate cancer support group have reported getting some relief from hot flashes by taking black cohosh.

On the other hand, some have reported no benefit at all.

I haven't tried it, myself.


-t - Feb 09, 2023 5:46:17 pm PST #20566 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Thirteen years is too long for this.

Good lord. Yes, that is too long!


amyparker - Feb 09, 2023 8:41:28 pm PST #20567 of 30000
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

For anyone wanting to try the Monday faux hooch, they're currently having a sale on bundles. I've just ordered the gin and whiskey for Jim and I. I shall report back!


meara - Feb 09, 2023 9:24:56 pm PST #20568 of 30000

Y’all. tiktok has ruined me. I was at a happy hour tonight and this woman said what she does by saying “I’m an accountant” and I immediately was like “…like a real one or like a tiktok accountant” because that’s all I could hear when she said it like that!! She had no idea what I was talking about and is a real accountant.

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Calli - Feb 10, 2023 5:00:57 am PST #20569 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I remember black cohosh from when I was into witchy herbal stuff, and it was recommended for “women’s concerns”. It would be cool if they were actually onto something.

I went through menopause when I was caring for my dying dad, so my doctor just put me on an antidepressant/anti anxiety med combo, and that got me through. Sometimes I miss Xanax. But my family has a history of addiction, so after all the everything I talked to my doctor and went off it. I’ve gotta say, being post menopausal is fabulous! In my last big clean I realized the period supplies under the sink were 10 years old, and I tossed them. No cramps, no hormonal fluctuations, and if I was having heterosexual sex, there’d be no pregnancy scares. 10/10, definitely recommend.


JenP - Feb 10, 2023 5:42:24 am PST #20570 of 30000

I had a hysterectomy and oophorectomy at 38 because of uterine cancer, so it's been a long while... haven't missed it a bit and the transition was shockingly easy. But my mom had it very easy with her natural menopause, too, so, heredity, I guess.

Plus, no side effects that aren't easily handled, so I've been lucky. Very lucky.

Waiting for a mammogram right now. Routine, so I'd like that to continue. Then lunch with my aunt and cousin at noon. And a couple of meetings and some work.

Then... weekend!


lisah - Feb 10, 2023 6:29:30 am PST #20571 of 30000
Punishingly Intricate

Perimenopause can eat a bag of dicks (although I never had hot flashes). I highly recommend being on the other side of it.

As for NA drinks, my friends just started carrying an NA pre mixed Negroni at their bar and it is legit! I’ve only had it topped with Prosecco so far but I’d drink it on its own with no complaints.


sj - Feb 10, 2023 6:51:34 am PST #20572 of 30000
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Perimenopause is the worst. Mostly because my pms days have become totally unpredictable.