Ugh. I wouldn’t discount that. Though I also wouldn’t be surprised if they thought they could play Saudis, Russia and who knows else off one another.
I'm not sure how old he is, but I heard him use the word 'newfangled' one time, so he's gotta be pretty far gone.
Dawn ,'Beneath You'
Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
brenda m - Aug 11, 2022 10:22:00 pm PDT #16830 of 30000
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Theodosia - Aug 12, 2022 4:33:04 am PDT #16831 of 30000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I've heard that it's speculated that Jared is the mole who squealed about the nuclear secrets -- I wonder if he got ordered to negotiate and decided (or rather, Ivanka decided) that was a step that could get him serious jail time that FiL couldn't save him from.
I also wonder if some of those Top Secret documents are excellent blackmail material that Trump wanted to keep close to him to keep the screws going on McCarthy et al.
Laura - Aug 12, 2022 5:25:47 am PDT #16832 of 30000
Our wings are not tired.
The speculation is fun, but the only thing that will really do is to see the former occupant convicted. Preferably in NY, and GA, other states, and Federal, with negotiation as to where he serves time first. Alas, I fear it won't matter at all what comes out with his loyal idiot followers. I hope it is a smaller number than we think that still are devoted, but they are so loud, and insane. I fear it will get worse before it gets better.
Vortex - Aug 12, 2022 7:48:18 am PDT #16833 of 30000
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
I think that we need to be realistic that he will not serve time. The DOJ will allow him to plead guilty and serve under house arrest, for security reasons. We will have to be content with him being disqualified to serve in federal office again. Which would not prevent him from running for governor of Florida, however. But, then, they deserve him.
Steph L. - Aug 12, 2022 7:56:36 am PDT #16834 of 30000
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated
I think that we need to be realistic that he will not serve time. The DOJ will allow him to plead guilty and serve under house arrest, for security reasons. We will have to be content with him being disqualified to serve in federal office again.
If he can't serve in federal office again, I'll be happy with that result.
Amy - Aug 12, 2022 10:50:47 am PDT #16835 of 30000
Because books.
Thank you, Vortex and Hec!
Keeping Trump from federal office would be enough for me. I'd love to see him in prison, but the security issue would probably prevent that. Unfortunately.
DavidS - Aug 12, 2022 11:13:43 am PDT #16836 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
So it's a daunting day already.
Anne Heche is being taken off life support, Salman Rushdie got stabbed in the neck, and one of my Kenyon acquaintances died unexpectedly (and I suspect suicide).
Amy - Aug 12, 2022 12:28:43 pm PDT #16837 of 30000
Because books.
I'm sorry to hear about your college friend, Hec. That's hard.
DavidS - Aug 12, 2022 12:39:52 pm PDT #16838 of 30000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'm sorry to hear about your college friend, Hec. That's hard.
He wasn't close. He was somebody I met at the first reunion, and got so notoriously drunk at the event that he had to be bailed out of jail. But he had been a reporter whose job had dried up several years ago. Not married. And I think he was just lonely and hopeless.
Calli - Aug 12, 2022 12:49:54 pm PDT #16839 of 30000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
I'm sorry about your friend, Daivd.
I am confident that Garland will act when he has an open and shut case.
I like this response to GOP moaning about not seeing the warrant yet. [link]
Which would not prevent him from running for governor of Florida, however. But, then, they deserve him.
Oh, please let Trump and DeSantis devour one another in a fight for FL power!