No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jan 18, 2022 10:59:01 am PST #12183 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ugh, Steph, that is a lot of weighing and dealing.

Can I go back to Joss for a second?

One thing that the Vulture article mentioned was that Buffy was considered feminist, but wasn't really. And, I think that claim suffers a bit from being made in 2022. When Buffy came out, I think it was pretty feminist for its milieu. But culturally we've moved past it. Which is a good thing, but cultural context does matter.

I totally agree with this. Here's a thing I tried to say to my mother last night, that she wasn't buying: I blame Bill Clinton for a lot of this, because we knew he was basically a garbage person, but we were weighing it against the good he could do and gave him a pass. I think that passed along to people like Joss as well, because we were used to it. The issue my mother had was that politicians can actually DO things for people, unlike media figures, but I think she is underestimating the impact of media figures.

I realize this is half-baked at best, but does that resonate for anyone?


-t - Jan 18, 2022 11:25:04 am PST #12184 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There's something to that, Jesse. And just that general thing of how rules don't apply to auteurs or artists or geniuses or statesmen or whatever exceptional category any particular actually average but successful white guy can manage to wedge himself in to which did not START with Clinton but could have been beaten back more then and wasn't.

I hope Tim feels ok about visiting his dad. There are some weird guidelines about TB tests, it may just have been required because of the move. And damn, that's kind of impressive about the package! Wow.


Jesse - Jan 18, 2022 11:30:37 am PST #12185 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And just that general thing of how rules don't apply to auteurs or artists or geniuses or statesmen or whatever exceptional category any particular actually average but successful white guy can manage to wedge himself in to which did not START with Clinton but could have been beaten back more then and wasn't.

Definitely. I guess what I'm getting at is that applies especially to the men "we" "like" for whatever reason.


meara - Jan 18, 2022 11:38:56 am PST #12186 of 30000

Covid tests.gov is up a day early! I just ordered! Got knows when we will actually get them, but it’s something.


meara - Jan 18, 2022 11:42:16 am PST #12187 of 30000

Also, y’all may be as entertained as I am by this—the kid is an ex’s (we’re still friends) and it’s cracking me up:

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askye - Jan 18, 2022 11:43:02 am PST #12188 of 30000
Thrive to spite them

Steph I'm sorry everything is so hard with Tim's dad.

Also the USPS shouldn't treat packages like that.


-t - Jan 18, 2022 11:45:14 am PST #12189 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

that applies especially to the men "we" "like" for whatever reason

Absolutely.

OMG that Midnight Society thread is beautiful! Every time I read one I think I should stay on Twitter more just so I can follow Midnight Society but I can never manage it. Thanks for the link, Consuela!


Jesse - Jan 18, 2022 12:01:04 pm PST #12190 of 30000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, y’all may be as entertained as I am by this—the kid is an ex’s (we’re still friends) and it’s cracking me up:

I already shared that to a group chat! That kid is outstanding.


-t - Jan 18, 2022 12:56:07 pm PST #12191 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Every time I cough Zoom helpfully tells me I'm muted and I need to unmute if if I want people to hear me. At least I know I'm muted when that happens, I guess.


Toddson - Jan 18, 2022 1:05:20 pm PST #12192 of 30000
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

wow ... I stay muted through most Zoom calls, since I rarely if ever have anything to say (the most I've said is that yes, I'm here and I can hear the call)

To amuse you, the story of two women, three cats and a blender.