Can we maybe vote on the whole murdering people issue?

Wash ,'Serenity'


Natter 77: I miss my friends. I miss my enemies. I miss the people I talked to every day.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Nov 18, 2021 3:37:13 pm PST #10679 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Getting my 2nd shingles shot on Monday and COVID booster early December. Then I might be done getting vaccinated for a while?


Cashmere - Nov 18, 2021 3:38:29 pm PST #10680 of 30000
Now tagless for your comfort.

I need to see about getting my Shingles vaccine

I need to get on that. I had shingles ONCE and shudder. But it requires some more insurance contacting.


Steph L. - Nov 18, 2021 3:49:00 pm PST #10681 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Tim's dad has been at the rehab facility for 8 days now. There was a meeting yesterday to plan his short- to medium-term care; the upshot is that the various clinicians/OTs/PTs think he ought to stay there for another week and then move to a skilled nursing facility with the highest level of care, because he can't do any of the ADLs (activities of daily living -- dressing, bathing, feeding himself, getting in or out of bed, using the bathroom) without 2 people to help him.

Adding his dementia into the mix makes it so much worse -- he doesn't know where he is, or why he's even there. He doesn't remember that he had a stroke. It really, really sucks.

Another thing that sucks is that I haven't told my dad yet that Tim's dad had a stroke, because my dad meets every bit of information about someone else's health problem with an instant litany of 30 godforsaken years of his own health problems (LIKE WE DON'T ALREADY KNOW ALL OF IT) (WE WERE THERE GANDALF). He doesn't even pause to say "Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that; how's he doing? How is Tim handling it?" He just immediately launches into his own shit, none of which is new. Which is (1) fucking rude, (2) draining in the Colin Robinson energy vampire way, and (3) effective at making people not want to talk to him.

I'll have to tell him at some point, but I don't have the spoons to do it yet. (When I told my therapist this week that I hadn't told my dad about Tim's dad's stroke, she high-fived me.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 18, 2021 3:49:04 pm PST #10682 of 30000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That sounds like the sort of thing email and other non-realtime methods of notification are made for, Steph!

I spoke too soon, the sliding door fell out of its mounting with a resounding crash and shattered both mirrors over my bed frame this afternoon. Oh well, at least it didn't pick late at night to fall on the bed when I'd have been in it (and poor Molly probably would have left a cat-shaped hole in the wall fleeing in terror).


Steph L. - Nov 18, 2021 3:51:04 pm PST #10683 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I spoke too soon, the sliding door fell out of its mounting with a resounding crash and shattered both mirrors over my bed frame this afternoon.

Shoulda used a higher-denomination coin than pennies. (I know nothing about home repair, but I know if you act like a big spender, your household bits and pieces will respond accordingly.)


-t - Nov 18, 2021 3:55:52 pm PST #10684 of 30000
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

{{{Tep}}} I like your therapist.

Bummer, Matt! Also yikes.


dcp - Nov 18, 2021 4:02:33 pm PST #10685 of 30000
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Tom Scola posting

He posted yesterday in the Marvel thread.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 18, 2021 4:08:34 pm PST #10686 of 30000
What is even happening?

FB and Tumblr, yes. Also IG, I think. (Now I feel like a creeper.)

I think Tom Scola fandom is a legitimate part of the Buffista experience.

Teppy, I'm sorry everything is so hard with Tim's dad. I hope you find a way to mention it t your own that lets him know NOT NOW DAD.

My mom likes to tell me, in depth, about everyone's illnesses. And I mean, I'm kind of medical detail girl myself, but she gets in too deep (and it's about everyone -- not just family, but people like her friend's boyfriend). Lately, I've been interrupting her and telling her, "I can't talk this much about it, Mom. It's bad for my anxiety." If I wait too long, I usually end up blurting out something less graceful, like: "I can't have this conversation, Mom."

It's okay to take care of yourself, Tep, even if it isn't an anxiety issue, you don't have to listen to the litany, and it's okay if you change the conversation.

That sounds like the sort of thing email and other non-realtime methods of notification are made for, Steph!

Or what Matt said. Matt, that's very smart.

I don't even check my email accounts any more, unless someone tells me I have to, because they sent me a thing.

I spoke too soon, the sliding door fell out of its mounting with a resounding crash and shattered both mirrors over my bed frame this afternoon. Oh well, at least it didn't pick late at night to fall on the bed when I'd have been in it (and poor Molly probably would have left a cat-shaped hole in the wall fleeing in terror).

Good timing aside, that sucks. I'm sorry.


meara - Nov 18, 2021 4:10:32 pm PST #10687 of 30000

Yikes Matt that sucks. Cleaning up glass is the worst.


Steph L. - Nov 18, 2021 4:46:31 pm PST #10688 of 30000
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

That sounds like the sort of thing email and other non-realtime methods of notification are made for, Steph!

My dad is the stereotypical 80-year-old who can't use a computer. And he does have a cellphone -- it's a flip phone, but those still do text and voicemail. But he has never been able to even learn how to check voicemail on his cell phone, and texting is not in his wheelhouse.

It's okay to take care of yourself, Tep, even if it isn't an anxiety issue, you don't have to listen to the litany, and it's okay if you change the conversation.

It's not anxiety on my part; it's that it's fucking hurtful that he's so rude he can't even say "I'm sorry to hear that." I'm really not joking when I say the conversation goes like this:

Dad: "How are you?"
Me: "You know how I'm super clumsy? I sprained my ankle building a snowman, which I bet no one has ever done before, and I can't believe how much it hurts!"
Dad, with absolutely no pause and no transition: [Something about his shoulder surgery from 6 years prior.]
Me: "Um...did you hear what I said to you, that I hurt my ankle today?"
Dad: "Yeah, why?"
Me: "I though you might say 'That sucks; I'm sorry to hear that,' since, you know, I'm YOUR KID, and that should matter to you."
Dad, who laughs first, and notably does NOT say 'I'm sorry to hear that': "Yeah, okay. Anyway, [back into the shoulder surgery story]"
Me: "Are you kidding me? I tell you I injured myself and you can't even offer any sympathy?"
Dad: "Where's the sympathy for ME?"
Me: "...for an outpatient surgery you had SIX YEARS AGO? What are you talking about?!?"

Fuck that shit. The only way to manage is to not give him a conversational opening, so my brother and I don't tell him anything remotely related to our health or the health of anyone, ever. It doesn't stop him from unleashing the droning litany of shit we already know by heart, but at least it's less overtly hurtful because we didn't give him an opportunity to exert a little compassion that he failed at spectacularly.