I kissed him, and I told him that I loved him. And I killed him.

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


amyth - Oct 11, 2018 11:51:54 am PDT #670 of 30019
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

This is way more wind than we ever got with Florence. Aaand our power just went out.


Sparky1 - Oct 11, 2018 12:32:52 pm PDT #671 of 30019
Librarian Warlord

Stay safe, everyone.

The HR person I am working on because of a bad thing just emailed to ask me for the names of everyone who works in my department who is of a certain race. I don't even know how to begin to answer that question - does she want me to guess? does she want me to ask them to self identify? doesn't she have the information if they chose to self identify at the time we signed them up for paychecks?

I'm going to ignore the question and hope it goes away. It's a managerial strategy I used to hesitate to apply, but now it's a favorite.


Sheryl - Oct 11, 2018 12:37:36 pm PDT #672 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

~ma to all who want/need it.


Laura - Oct 11, 2018 12:48:57 pm PDT #673 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Sorry they didn't have a solution, sj. You get adulting stars for checking it out though.

Sorry about the power loss! This storm held up to going over land so much more than usual. Yikes.

Sparky, not cool. If they ask again would it be acceptable to say you were not comfortable classifying your coworkers that way?


Steph L. - Oct 11, 2018 12:52:57 pm PDT #674 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Well dang, Buffista-ma! Tim has a verbal job offer! They're going to email the formal offer tomorrow, and assuming everything is copacetic, he should start sometime in November (depending on how much notice his current job needs).

He wasn't expecting to have a job interview today -- the manager called him this morning and asked if he could come in at 4:00. So he went, but felt a little unprepared. During the interview, the manager asked Tim what salary he was hoping for. I think Tim low-balled the number. Here's my question, because I don't have a lot of experience with job negotiation: when Tim gets the formal offer, can he still negotiate on salary, or has that ship sailed?


Toddson - Oct 11, 2018 12:53:02 pm PDT #675 of 30019
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

For Sparky: or you could list yourself (if applicable) and for everyone else claim ignorance.


Dana - Oct 11, 2018 12:56:10 pm PDT #676 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Steph, I'm pretty sure Ask a Manager had something about this recently. I'll see if I can find it.


Steph L. - Oct 11, 2018 12:59:43 pm PDT #677 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I did a search on Ask a Manager, and there's good stuff on negotiating salary in general, but I couldn't find anything about negotiating salary upward after giving a figure in an interview.


Dana - Oct 11, 2018 1:01:10 pm PDT #678 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Here it is: [link]


Dana - Oct 11, 2018 1:04:00 pm PDT #679 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Oh, most important thing: Woohoo job offer!