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Steph L. - Oct 11, 2018 12:52:57 pm PDT #674 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Well dang, Buffista-ma! Tim has a verbal job offer! They're going to email the formal offer tomorrow, and assuming everything is copacetic, he should start sometime in November (depending on how much notice his current job needs).

He wasn't expecting to have a job interview today -- the manager called him this morning and asked if he could come in at 4:00. So he went, but felt a little unprepared. During the interview, the manager asked Tim what salary he was hoping for. I think Tim low-balled the number. Here's my question, because I don't have a lot of experience with job negotiation: when Tim gets the formal offer, can he still negotiate on salary, or has that ship sailed?

Toddson - Oct 11, 2018 12:53:02 pm PDT #675 of 30019
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

For Sparky: or you could list yourself (if applicable) and for everyone else claim ignorance.

Dana - Oct 11, 2018 12:56:10 pm PDT #676 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Steph, I'm pretty sure Ask a Manager had something about this recently. I'll see if I can find it.

Steph L. - Oct 11, 2018 12:59:43 pm PDT #677 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I did a search on Ask a Manager, and there's good stuff on negotiating salary in general, but I couldn't find anything about negotiating salary upward after giving a figure in an interview.

Dana - Oct 11, 2018 1:01:10 pm PDT #678 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Here it is: [link]

Dana - Oct 11, 2018 1:04:00 pm PDT #679 of 30019
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Oh, most important thing: Woohoo job offer!

Atropa - Oct 11, 2018 1:05:29 pm PDT #680 of 30019
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Yay Tim! That's great news!

I want everyone else to have better days, and stop injuring yourselves, please.

Not recognizing the Shelleys isn't Millennial. It's just someone who needs an English lit refresher.

THIS. EXACTLY.

I got my Botox shots in my head today, and the migraine I'd been having for 6 days has gone! I hate the cost of the treatment, but considering it gets me 3 months with no migraines, I'll deal.

Calli - Oct 11, 2018 1:05:36 pm PDT #681 of 30019
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yay Tim!

-t - Oct 11, 2018 1:37:37 pm PDT #682 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yay Tim!

I have such a dumb work problem I don't know if I can even explain it. And it just keeps going on and on and on. Argh.

Steph L. - Oct 11, 2018 1:47:02 pm PDT #683 of 30019
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Here it is: [link]

Thanks, Dana! That'll be useful to him.

This is pretty exciting! He's needed to move to a job that's less physically demanding, because it's just too hard on him with his RA.

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