Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Mar 24, 2019 9:23:03 am PDT #6245 of 30019
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm so sorry as well!


Sheryl - Mar 24, 2019 10:47:49 am PDT #6246 of 30019
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

I'm sorry, askye and askye's mom.


Scrappy - Mar 24, 2019 11:47:13 am PDT #6247 of 30019
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I'm so sorry, Askye.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 24, 2019 1:20:47 pm PDT #6248 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I am so sorry Askye.


-t - Mar 24, 2019 1:26:37 pm PDT #6249 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm sorry, askye.

I hope you are not hurting yourself, aurelia. It's tough, not knowing exactly how hard to push your body.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 24, 2019 1:40:05 pm PDT #6250 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

So, I don't know where else to share this because it is private, but maybe some of you remember a saga of my BFF and her piece of shit husband over the last fifteen years. The past three years have been him not drinking, but also not working and her supporting the whole family, both financially and at home. He occasionally took the kids places and did the grocery shopping.

The past three years they seemed to be getting close again, and I was so guilty because I was a little jealous and also thought that he was manipulating her somehow

Well, she found out that he has been seeing a27 year old woman (who thinks he is employed) and skimming money from the groceries to buy things for that family. The 27 year old apparently dropped her wallet in the car so Maria would find out

He is now out of the house and staying with the girlfriend and her parents. I am like good riddance, but so sad for my friend who is figuring out all the gaslighting and tangles of lies. Like he took her Christmas shopping for this woman and her kids, and she bought and wrapped them presents thinking it was for her AA friends

I just want to kill this guy. And I feel horrible because I had my suspicions but they weren't rational or evidence based and you can't really hate on your friends husband. But he was semi skeevy to me 15 years ago when he gave me back money I loaned him by slipping it in my front jeans pocket and maybe I should have said something then

Does anyone know about marital property laws in NYS her brother has a JD, so I am assuming they have thought of this, but she is convinced that because she is listed as the sole owner of the house (her mom bought it and transferred it to her) that she has no worries about him being able to get any assets, especially since he hasn't worked in 10 years. I am more nervous. I thought her mom still owned the house but she signed it over last year.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 24, 2019 1:44:23 pm PDT #6251 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Also, my godson, her 17 year old son said "I knew he had to go. Besides, Dad was funny and all, but he never did anything, and when we were little and did fun stuff it was with you and Aunt Sophia and Uncle Philip (BFFs brother)


-t - Mar 24, 2019 1:51:10 pm PDT #6252 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, Sophia, your poor friend! I hope she is truly rid of him.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 24, 2019 1:59:41 pm PDT #6253 of 30019
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Me too! I just get nervous he can screw things up because she and her extended family are so legal and moral and upstanding, and think fairness will always win out, and I am afraid he can make a case that she needs to give him money to live on. I am not sure he is that smart, but I think it is an argument that could be made by a good legal team.

She has removed him from the car insurance and the electricity, but cant remove him from the health insurance. She has redone her will. She can't remove him from cable because he set that up, but the company recommended just refusing to pay. She is not removing him from the mobile phone right now because she wants to be able to contact her. They have no other assets besides a 10 year old car. She thinks she doesn't need to pay his credit cards, but I am not sure. She is seeing an attorney Monday.


flea - Mar 24, 2019 2:12:16 pm PDT #6254 of 30019
information libertarian

If he had deliberately stopped working to care for the children, or is disabled, he might have a case for some spousal support. But it doesn't sound like either of those things are the case. But I am sure the attorney will be able to speak more authoritatively.