She just... she just did the math.

Kaylee ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 76: Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Foaminess  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Jul 17, 2020 1:55:54 am PDT #23679 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Consuela, that sounds wonderful. Enjoy the family time. I stayed in hotels 2 nights on the way here from Florida. Both in SC and PA masks were everywhere, public facilities like swimming pools and breakfast lounges were closed, and cleaning procedures were evident. My concerns were alleviated.

I dunno, there are certainly a lot of people with bigger problems.

All of us are on stress overload. And yes, there are always people with bigger and smaller problems. The bottom line is that we have to be there for each other and support each other emotionally. David is correct in pointing out that you don't have the support you need and deserve. Loving partners don't get mad when we make mistakes, they are supportive and make every effort to help us feel better about ourselves. You don't make more mistakes than the rest of humanity, and you work harder than most of us! You deserve appreciation and support. I hope you can at least find that here, because I appreciate you, and I know we all do.


Shir - Jul 17, 2020 2:41:46 am PDT #23680 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

An abridged meara'ing:

Epic, I am so sorry.

flea - wow. Just... wow.

Gud: What Laura said. I am worried about you. You are a good human being with a kind heart. You are also under a lot of stress, sick, and it seems like you have no support system so you cannot heal or trust yourself. Why are you the one who needs to take care of things instead of healing? Making small mistakes is not fucking up. It's part of being human.

Pix (and e_o!) - lovely seeing your pixels, and I want to echo what Pix said: I am grateful for this place very, very much. And one of these days, after the plague, I'm getting on a plane to see those of you in the East Coast that I didn't see in that F2F six years ago.

(Pix, whenever I walk by a jacaranda tree, I'm thinking of you).


Laura - Jul 17, 2020 3:17:16 am PDT #23681 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Hi Shir! I was thinking of you yesterday. I was going through boxes of my mother's belongings that my step-father had packed up for me. They have sat unopened for years because I never quite seemed up to it. Anyway, one of the boxes contained the rocks you sent me to give to her. She loved them, and I very much appreciated that you gathered them for me. So that brought smiles and warm memories. Thank you. (eta: that was 8 years ago!)


Shir - Jul 17, 2020 3:41:38 am PDT #23682 of 30019
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Oh, the rocks! I'm glad that brought smiles.

And 8 years ago, damn. I know it's not that much of a time, but it feels so far away.


Fred Pete - Jul 17, 2020 4:05:07 am PDT #23683 of 30019
Ann, that's a ferret.

Gud, I'm getting really worried about you. You're sounding like I sound when my depression is really getting to me. Please do SOMETHING to get professional help. At least talk to your GP about getting medication. A good therapist can also help you work through your issues -- I haven't been on Talkspace, but I've heard good things about it (and I don't mean just the Michael Weiss commercials).


askye - Jul 17, 2020 4:43:35 am PDT #23684 of 30019
Thrive to spite them

Please Gud see someone at least just to talk. Everyone makes mistakes we are people.

You have 2 kids who are old enough to cook and help around the house and your wife. You shouldn't be trying to do that all on your own.


-t - Jul 17, 2020 5:49:18 am PDT #23685 of 30019
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, Gud, I'm sorry you are having such a hard time. None of that actually sounds like its your fault, although I know it is hard to believe that when it is how you feel and you do get blamed. I'm sorry, man.

Other people having bigger problems does not make your problems smaller, alas.


Laura - Jul 17, 2020 7:24:28 am PDT #23686 of 30019
Our wings are not tired.

Oh dear. RBG announced her cancer is back, but the good news is she isn't going anywhere.


Gudanov - Jul 17, 2020 7:38:06 am PDT #23687 of 30019
Coding and Sleeping

Thanks. I'm not sure talking to somebody will help if I'm at heart just not a good person. Also, it's just too expensive right now.


Dana - Jul 17, 2020 7:42:34 am PDT #23688 of 30019
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Gud, of course you're a good person.