I, for one, wasn't looking forward to starting my day with a slaughter. Which, really, just goes to show how much I've grown

Anya ,'Sleeper'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

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Toddson - Oct 22, 2021 11:47:00 am PDT #7691 of 8185
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I remember earlier occasions when people were killed on set with prop guns ... even ones with blanks.


Dana - Oct 22, 2021 11:52:24 am PDT #7692 of 8185
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

John Rogers said on Twitter that any time a gun is in use on his set, he puts it up against his hand and fires it before they do the scene.


-t - Oct 22, 2021 2:16:24 pm PDT #7693 of 8185
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It sounds like that was a bad situation before the shooting.


sj - Oct 22, 2021 2:53:57 pm PDT #7694 of 8185
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I was watching a show on conspiracies where they reenacted how Brandon Lee died on set to show how it was possible to be killed with a prop gun filled with blanks. It came down to something being left in the barrel of the gun that shouldn't have been there that was dislodged by the blank, but I don't know enough about guns to remember all to details.


erikaj - Oct 23, 2021 1:02:01 pm PDT #7695 of 8185
Always Anti-fascist!

Nothing to fool with, that's for sure. In an unrelated note, :MOM, IT"S OKAY TO TELL ME THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING! I feel bad that we half-assed a milestone birthday(actually sort of hard to avoid since Events are still a bit scary, like "here are some tickets...now with added fear of illness, you know. ) But still, at times like that, fuck that viking stoic bullcrap. I can kind of see why it was hard to be her bf.


askye - Oct 23, 2021 5:28:40 pm PDT #7696 of 8185
Thrive to spite them

Truly I read that the armorer for the movie is young and had only led one other production so I wonder if her inexperience played a role. It also sounds like there were other problems on set before this happens that made it seem like it wasnt a well run production.


Beverly - Oct 23, 2021 8:39:17 pm PDT #7697 of 8185
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I read that the union crew walked off set the day before and they were running with quickly-hired non-union locals. The pitch hit "armorer" would not likely have known the standard protocol.


askye - Oct 24, 2021 8:04:59 am PDT #7698 of 8185
Thrive to spite them

I don't think this was a replacement armorer, but from what I read this is only the 2nd big production where she has done.

There have been reports that there were 2 accidental discharges previously during the production, no one was injured, but it doesn't sound like there were any changes to what they were doing.


Vortex - Oct 24, 2021 11:22:55 am PDT #7699 of 8185
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that it is very clear that basic prop gun safety procedures were not followed here, made worse by the fact that there were previous incidents that did not cause the crew/director to establish better procedures.

One article I read claimed that the assistant director just picked the gun up off of a prop table and gave it to Alec Baldwin. No one cleared the gun for use. The gun should not have been on a prop table, and the armorer should have been on scene to clear the gun, give it to the actor, then take it back and clean it/lock it up after the scene.


DebetEsse - Oct 24, 2021 12:24:38 pm PDT #7700 of 8185
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah, reading the descriptions of the AD's behavior on-set, I can imagine that, even if the armorer was trying her best, if no one was backing her up on safety, it's easy/possible to get steamrolled by assholes like that, especially as a younger woman.