All right, yes, date and shop and hang out and go to school and save the world from unspeakable demons. You know, I wanna do girlie stuff!

Buffy ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


erikaj - Oct 23, 2021 1:02:01 pm PDT #7695 of 8185
Always Anti-fascist!

Nothing to fool with, that's for sure. In an unrelated note, :MOM, IT"S OKAY TO TELL ME THAT YOU WANT SOMETHING! I feel bad that we half-assed a milestone birthday(actually sort of hard to avoid since Events are still a bit scary, like "here are some tickets...now with added fear of illness, you know. ) But still, at times like that, fuck that viking stoic bullcrap. I can kind of see why it was hard to be her bf.


askye - Oct 23, 2021 5:28:40 pm PDT #7696 of 8185
Thrive to spite them

Truly I read that the armorer for the movie is young and had only led one other production so I wonder if her inexperience played a role. It also sounds like there were other problems on set before this happens that made it seem like it wasnt a well run production.


Beverly - Oct 23, 2021 8:39:17 pm PDT #7697 of 8185
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I read that the union crew walked off set the day before and they were running with quickly-hired non-union locals. The pitch hit "armorer" would not likely have known the standard protocol.


askye - Oct 24, 2021 8:04:59 am PDT #7698 of 8185
Thrive to spite them

I don't think this was a replacement armorer, but from what I read this is only the 2nd big production where she has done.

There have been reports that there were 2 accidental discharges previously during the production, no one was injured, but it doesn't sound like there were any changes to what they were doing.


Vortex - Oct 24, 2021 11:22:55 am PDT #7699 of 8185
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that it is very clear that basic prop gun safety procedures were not followed here, made worse by the fact that there were previous incidents that did not cause the crew/director to establish better procedures.

One article I read claimed that the assistant director just picked the gun up off of a prop table and gave it to Alec Baldwin. No one cleared the gun for use. The gun should not have been on a prop table, and the armorer should have been on scene to clear the gun, give it to the actor, then take it back and clean it/lock it up after the scene.


DebetEsse - Oct 24, 2021 12:24:38 pm PDT #7700 of 8185
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah, reading the descriptions of the AD's behavior on-set, I can imagine that, even if the armorer was trying her best, if no one was backing her up on safety, it's easy/possible to get steamrolled by assholes like that, especially as a younger woman.


Tom Scola - Oct 25, 2021 8:59:00 am PDT #7701 of 8185
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Ugh.

Producers on the set of Rust cut significant corners when it came to safety protocols and working conditions, according to those who were involved and familiar with the project.


Toddson - Oct 25, 2021 10:12:33 am PDT #7702 of 8185
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I realize I know virtually nothing about this, but is there a reason to have live ammunition on a set?


EpicTangent - Oct 25, 2021 10:16:10 am PDT #7703 of 8185
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

That's what I was thinking, Todd.


Steph L. - Oct 25, 2021 10:36:16 am PDT #7704 of 8185
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I think Trudy is going to be our best source of information on this, but from the articles I've read about this incident, even blanks are considered "live ammunition," because they still involve the use of gunpowder.

Producers on the set of Rust cut significant corners when it came to safety protocols and working conditions, according to those who were involved and familiar with the project.

Was Alec Baldwin also a producer of this film? That's not great for him.