Mal: How drunk was I last night? Jayne: Well I dunno. I passed out.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Spike's Bitches 49: As usual, I'm here to help you, and I... are you naked under there?

Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Beverly - May 30, 2018 9:57:56 pm PDT #3915 of 8219
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Suzi, how do you plan to get Jason Momoa's arm? This is very exciting!


Steph L. - May 31, 2018 3:58:47 am PDT #3916 of 8219
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Maybe have a talk with Tim about keeping that kind of crazy out of your house.

I forgot to say last night, after she left, I asked him why he didn't at least text me to tell me she was coming over, and he said that she didn't ask him/tell him she was going to come over. And I was so caught off-guard by her just showing up, announcing she's suicidal, and coming on in that I didn't know how to respond.

So, yeah. We need to work out a better plan for the future.

Those people are seem plain fucked up with very little chance of sorting out their shit.

The odds are likelier that they will drag you down more than you can buoy them up.

Not!son is almost 40 and is a vortex of chaos, poor decisions, and lies. And substance abuse. I made it crystal clear to Tim that I am absolutely NOT being a part of any more addicts' lives, and that includes not!son. I just didn't expect his hot mess of a GF to show up on our doorstep.


WindSparrow - May 31, 2018 4:48:15 am PDT #3917 of 8219
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I don't know what to say, Steph. I believe your therapist will be able to help you know what resources there are to assist someone in that kind of crisis that will put the responsibility square on the shoulders of people who have the training and knowledge to help.

Quester, I'm sorry. How sad for their loved ones. Also contemplating our own fragility ain't no picnic.


-t - May 31, 2018 5:31:13 am PDT #3918 of 8219
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm so sorry, Tep. What a terrible situation. Good job not actively raging.


SuziQ - May 31, 2018 6:07:22 am PDT #3919 of 8219
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Tep, I hope the burgers satisfied your hangry. What a stressful situation.

Suzi, how do you plan to get Jason Momoa's arm?

He was just announced, yesterday morning, as a guest at DCC this year. His photo ops sold out in less than 12 hours, but I snagged one. Now, if only we could get him shirtless!


Toddson - May 31, 2018 7:26:13 am PDT #3920 of 8219
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Suzi, just ask - he might be willing - and I'm sure you'd have the gratitude of the fans ... at least some of them.


Beverly - May 31, 2018 10:27:43 am PDT #3921 of 8219
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Toddson gives *excellent* advice.

Tep, I hope today's therapy does much to restore your equilibrium and perspective, from an interior point of view. From out here? I don't see how else you could have reacted.

This should not be a thing that happens in your house. It's a difficult thing for Tim to have to manage, but he's probably going to have to, because not!son and gf obviously are looking for any sort of flotation device and will willingly drown anyone or thing in their vicinity, whether that actually keeps them from drowning is probably irrelevant to them.

My metaphors are crap. I support you in email and however else might be helpful.


Steph L. - May 31, 2018 10:42:03 am PDT #3922 of 8219
I look more rad than Lutheranism

My therapist said pretty plainly that, while GF is undoubtedly in a lot of pain and dealing with a lot of shit, she's almost certainly not suicidal. Because someone who's suicidal will either (1) just do it, or (2) ask for help, not show up at your house and announce that they're going to play with your cat even though you have work to do.

Obviously my therapist can't make that judgement call with any authority because she isn't GF's therapist and can only rely on my version of events. That said, I tend to agree with her. I think that GF is genuinely in a lot of pain and is stuck in some shitty life circumstances (including choosing a garbage fire to have children with). But I don't think she's suicidal.

My therapist reminded me that Tim's boundaries with not!son and GF don't have to be my boundaries, and next time GF shows up on our doorstep, I can offer to drive her to the psych ER, and if she doesn't want to go, tell her that I can't help her then, and she needs to find somewhere else to be.

It's a difficult thing for Tim to have to manage, but he's probably going to have to, because not!son and gf obviously are looking for any sort of flotation device and will willingly drown anyone or thing in their vicinity, whether that actually keeps them from drowning is probably irrelevant to them.

Yeah, Tim still feels a lot of parental(ish) loyalty to not!son. It's fine for him to have different boundaries with not!son and GF than the boundaries I choose to have. Well, to a point, I guess. I'll intervene as soon as any nonsense with these 2 affects *our* life together.

But I have no tolerance for any more addicts in my life, and that includes not!son. Just because jail has forced him into a situation where he can't drink or do drugs, doesn't mean that he's actually sober. If he gets his head out of his ass and turns his life around and starts being a parent to his 2 little girls, then I'll believe that he's sober. But I actually expect that when he gets out he'll go right back to his old ways. And I refuse to let him drag Tim down with him.


Burrell - May 31, 2018 12:14:45 pm PDT #3923 of 8219
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Ugh Steph, what a painful situation for all of you. I'm impressed with your boundaries on this


Hil R. - May 31, 2018 2:30:14 pm PDT #3924 of 8219
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Ugh, Steph. The boundaries you're setting on this sound good.

I went out and did most of the errands I needed to do -- went to pharmacy, went grocery shopping. Bought some dill pickle flavor potato chips, because those are stress food for me. Though, now that I think about it, since one of the possibilities for what's wrong with me is bleeding ulcer, maybe that's not such a good idea. But my doctor didn't tell me any restrictions on what I could eat.