Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 30, 2017 8:39:47 am PST #6411 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

It is a little disconcerting, because it is simultaneously a horrible view of humanity and thinking all people are super nice. Maybe it is not the same people, but I definitely know people who are pro-life and care about the babies and do things to help them, but somehow think that everyone will do that, so we don't need government help or abortion.

Of course, even though I am a bleeding heart, I also sort of think that even if I believed it was baby killing, I would still be all right with it being an individual choice.


Jesse - Jan 30, 2017 8:48:18 am PST #6412 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

What gets me about a lot of these people on the right is they seem to have such a dismal view of humanity. Not just writ large but of the actual people around them. I suppose it's quite true that in some cases a bio-dad or a young girl's parents might look to argue, but boiling that down to inconvenience is bizarre. And this reads like he pretty much expects that anyone who might be asked to babysit is looking to drag some poor woman to the clinic.

See also the grab-em-by-the-pussy "all your male friends talk like that!" That's how you really see your BF, dad, male friends?

Yes.


Jesse - Jan 30, 2017 8:50:15 am PST #6413 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Also, the only situation I can really imagine that can be realistically twisted into what your friend is seeing is a young teenager whose parents don't want to raise her child and don't see her as able to do it herself. That's just not at all the same thing as "being inconvenienced."


Connie Neil - Jan 30, 2017 9:07:44 am PST #6414 of 30002
brillig

Where I grew up, most girls who got pregnant just kept it as the first of several she'd end up with. The only difference between rural Western Pennsylvania of my youth and Utah is that if the girl is over 17, odds are she's married. Though to give Utah Mormons a little credit, it's becoming more accepted to wait till their 20s to get married, though you're still running out of time if you start creeping up on 25.


Fred Pete - Jan 30, 2017 9:14:57 am PST #6415 of 30002
Ann, that's a ferret.

See also the grab-em-by-the-pussy "all your male friends talk like that!"

If that's true for (generic) you, then you need new male friends.


Jesse - Jan 30, 2017 9:16:28 am PST #6416 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The only difference between rural Western Pennsylvania of my youth and Utah is that if the girl is over 17, odds are she's married.

Yeah, I always think about how my grandmother wasn't a "teen mom" because she was married! And she was 19 by the time my father was born, so practically over the hill already....


Tom Scola - Jan 30, 2017 9:23:35 am PST #6417 of 30002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

So, apparently, this is going around: 50 U.S. Code ยง 3021. National Security Council

The Council shall be composed of-
(1) the President;
(2) the Vice President;
(3) the Secretary of State;
(4) the Secretary of Defense;
(5) the Secretary of Energy; and
(6) the Secretaries and Under Secretaries of other executive departments and of the military departments, when appointed by the President by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to serve at his pleasure.

Bannon needs to be approved of by the Senate.


Connie Neil - Jan 30, 2017 9:24:37 am PST #6418 of 30002
brillig

It's really just a guideline.


-t - Jan 30, 2017 9:43:39 am PST #6419 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Argh, I am almost out of Adderall and my doctor is apparently no longer with Kaiser; they will call me back some time in the next 5 days to tell me who my new doctor is and (I hope) give me an appointment. Really should have started this process earlier, I guess.


-t - Jan 30, 2017 9:46:01 am PST #6420 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

And Gud's FB friend - dude, has it never occurred to him that he is completely unaware of the vast majority of actual situations? It's a pretty private thing.