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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Atropa - Aug 21, 2018 6:32:46 pm PDT #28637 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

My big revelation today was learning the wonders of a top-down fire.

Aim the hairspray flamethrower at the top of the tent caterpillar nest, and burn your way down.


Zenkitty - Aug 21, 2018 6:59:13 pm PDT #28638 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Atropa no

we have matches

Top-down is how I always built a fire until someone taught me the right way. Whatever, it worked. I got fire and warm beenie-weenies.

Oh! On Rachel Maddow's show, Cohen's lawyer said Cohen basically knows all the things 'bout collusion and hacking and would be happy to talk to the Special Counsel.

Cohen waited for a pardon that didn't come and he is feeling betrayed, O Orange One.


Atropa - Aug 21, 2018 7:21:11 pm PDT #28639 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Atropa no

we have matches

But it's an important family tradition!


Katerina Bee - Aug 21, 2018 7:25:48 pm PDT #28640 of 30002
Herding cats for fun

He Who Should Remain Nameless should go down like a red hot Flaming Cheeto of Dooooom!


Zenkitty - Aug 21, 2018 7:33:07 pm PDT #28641 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

He will if Atropa gets near his hair with that flamethrower


Consuela - Aug 21, 2018 7:36:03 pm PDT #28642 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

In honor of the events of today, I have made Unindicted Coconspirator cookies. (AKA Laura Bush's cowboy cookie recipe from the NY Times.)


DavidS - Aug 21, 2018 8:08:27 pm PDT #28643 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oh! On Rachel Maddow's show, Cohen's lawyer said Cohen basically knows all the things 'bout collusion and hacking and would be happy to talk to the Special Counsel.

My favorite tidbit there was that Cohen is cooperating with SDNY. Which is beyond a Presidential Pardon's jurisdiction.


meara - Aug 21, 2018 8:45:25 pm PDT #28644 of 30002

I totally misunderstood at first and thought "top down fire" was some sort of metaphor or phrase about the way the White House and company are burning. ...I'd be ok with a top down fire like that.


Consuela - Aug 21, 2018 8:59:00 pm PDT #28645 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My favorite tidbit there was that Cohen is cooperating with SDNY. Which is beyond a Presidential Pardon's jurisdiction.

Nope, SDNY is the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY, which is still federal. None of these guys have been charged yet in state courts, which would put them beyond the pardon power. Yet, anyway: the NY AG seems very interested in a lot of what's going on, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mueller is sharing information with them.

I've seen this whole thing referred to as Stupid Watergate, which it really is. They're all so DUMB. John Dean was interviewed on Josh Marshall's podcast this morning, and it's fascinating to hear how much more sensible even (some of) the bad guys in the Nixon circle were.


askye - Aug 21, 2018 11:52:25 pm PDT #28646 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

I see a lot of "hit the streets and protest if Trump fires Mueller" but I think if he pardons Manafort that should happen.

I've seen a few people optimistically speculate that Trump will resign because of what is happening but I don't think he will. I think he will try to hold on and grab as much power as he can.