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'Underneath'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Katerina Bee - Aug 21, 2018 7:25:48 pm PDT #28640 of 30002
Herding cats for fun

He Who Should Remain Nameless should go down like a red hot Flaming Cheeto of Dooooom!


Zenkitty - Aug 21, 2018 7:33:07 pm PDT #28641 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

He will if Atropa gets near his hair with that flamethrower


Consuela - Aug 21, 2018 7:36:03 pm PDT #28642 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

In honor of the events of today, I have made Unindicted Coconspirator cookies. (AKA Laura Bush's cowboy cookie recipe from the NY Times.)


DavidS - Aug 21, 2018 8:08:27 pm PDT #28643 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Oh! On Rachel Maddow's show, Cohen's lawyer said Cohen basically knows all the things 'bout collusion and hacking and would be happy to talk to the Special Counsel.

My favorite tidbit there was that Cohen is cooperating with SDNY. Which is beyond a Presidential Pardon's jurisdiction.


meara - Aug 21, 2018 8:45:25 pm PDT #28644 of 30002

I totally misunderstood at first and thought "top down fire" was some sort of metaphor or phrase about the way the White House and company are burning. ...I'd be ok with a top down fire like that.


Consuela - Aug 21, 2018 8:59:00 pm PDT #28645 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

My favorite tidbit there was that Cohen is cooperating with SDNY. Which is beyond a Presidential Pardon's jurisdiction.

Nope, SDNY is the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY, which is still federal. None of these guys have been charged yet in state courts, which would put them beyond the pardon power. Yet, anyway: the NY AG seems very interested in a lot of what's going on, and I wouldn't be surprised if Mueller is sharing information with them.

I've seen this whole thing referred to as Stupid Watergate, which it really is. They're all so DUMB. John Dean was interviewed on Josh Marshall's podcast this morning, and it's fascinating to hear how much more sensible even (some of) the bad guys in the Nixon circle were.


askye - Aug 21, 2018 11:52:25 pm PDT #28646 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

I see a lot of "hit the streets and protest if Trump fires Mueller" but I think if he pardons Manafort that should happen.

I've seen a few people optimistically speculate that Trump will resign because of what is happening but I don't think he will. I think he will try to hold on and grab as much power as he can.


Dana - Aug 22, 2018 3:37:16 am PDT #28647 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I've seen this whole thing referred to as Stupid Watergate, which it really is.

Hee. That's what John Oliver's show calls it.

I can't believe all of the late night shows are on break.


Jesse - Aug 22, 2018 3:51:09 am PDT #28648 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

In honor of the events of today, I have made Unindicted Coconspirator cookies. (AKA Laura Bush's cowboy cookie recipe from the NY Times.)

That's hilarious.

I see a lot of "hit the streets and protest if Trump fires Mueller" but I think if he pardons Manafort that should happen.

I'm on the list for a group of musicians to go play at protests and things, and a lot of items have been coming through in the last couple of days, and they are all good causes, but not what I want to protest! Environment, nuclear waste, old people getting evicted...


Dana - Aug 22, 2018 3:52:37 am PDT #28649 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Cohen's lawyer says that Cohen wouldn't accept a pardon from Trump, for whatever that's worth.

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