I've been out of the abbey two days, I've beaten a lawman senseless, I've fallen in with criminals. I watched the captain shoot the man I swore to protect. And I'm not even sure if I think he was wrong.

Book ,'Serenity'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jun 20, 2018 3:11:20 pm PDT #26462 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'm sorry, but you've got another thing coming. The thing is a knuckle sandwich. I swear this is how my mother used it


Jesse - Jun 20, 2018 3:15:36 pm PDT #26463 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Does she just not enunciate her Ts? Probably a moo point.

I've now seen it in writing twice!


shrift - Jun 20, 2018 3:33:55 pm PDT #26464 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Jesse, I can't decide if I want to die on the "it's not even a homophone!" hill.


Vortex - Jun 20, 2018 3:34:33 pm PDT #26465 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

In a weird situation with friends, could use some Buffista advice. I have a friendquaintance (FQ). I hung out with his husband at a conference that we were attending. Hubby and I really hit it off; I remind hubby of his BFF who passed away. I was peripherally at the conference, so Hubby and I were hanging out and partying like rock stars. Get back from the conference, Hubby texts me two weeks later to joke that he's been out of touch because he had to detox for two weeks.

Hubby later invites me to a dance party at Pride this upcoming weekend in NY, offers to book me a room at their hotel with their points, sounds like a blast.

Monday, Hubby and I have dinner and drinks and firm up plans. FQ then messages me on Facebook the next day asking me to "be honest with him" and tell him if Hubby was drinking on Monday. He then says that Hubby is an alcoholic and needs to focus on sobriety, so the weekend is cancelled. I don't have Messenger on my phone, so I don't see the messages until late last night.

I punt and reply that I don't want to get in the middle, love them both. I also had already planned to be in NY for my friend's bday party, so I told him that I'd be in NY anyway and not to worry about me. I have not heard from Hubby, not sure I should reach out. And if Hubby just moves forward with the weekend, should I go?

On the one hand, if Hubby really is trying to get sober, I don't want to mess that up by being all "let's party for Pride". OTOH, if FQ has invented this whole drama by deciding that Hubby is an alcoholic, I don't want Hubby to think that I believe that he has a problem.

I don't know if he does, really. I've never seen him drink too much inappropriately, but I have seen him drunk a few times. He's told me a few embarrassing stories (but a lot of people have those)

On the third hand, if Hubby is in denial about his condition, I don't want to enable.

Ugh. What to do?


meara - Jun 20, 2018 3:44:43 pm PDT #26466 of 30002

Oh lord. All this ladder and tenant and...argh. I've been working with PowerPoint slides and business people the last two days (which I don't normally do) and that's been bad enough! Don't make me worry about "peaking" their interest


meara - Jun 20, 2018 3:49:36 pm PDT #26467 of 30002

Vortex, can you ask Hubby directly? Like "hey, your husband is saying you are sober, if so I didn't know that, let me know if I should change any plans, perfectly happy to do dinner instead of drink or whatever"? Or something along those lines? I mean the man could be in denial but neither you nor his husband can get him out of that.


Vortex - Jun 20, 2018 4:01:11 pm PDT #26468 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I was thinking that I should just reach out to Hubby and ask if we are still on for this weekend.


Jesse - Jun 20, 2018 4:17:00 pm PDT #26469 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Oh jeez, Vortex, that's tough. You could just let it ride and not see Hubby unless he reaches out.


Vortex - Jun 20, 2018 5:24:23 pm PDT #26470 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Yeah, but I don't want to punish Hubby or make him think that I think he has a problem if his husband is just being dramatic because he had a few drinks on a Monday.


Laura - Jun 20, 2018 6:20:03 pm PDT #26471 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

If Hubby told you he had to detox for a couple weeks after partying it could be a problem exists. Ugh. Tough.

I have apparently lost my mind so I am up late packing because I am departing for NY in the very early morning. All week I have been suffering over the decision with my cousin passing away and tonight I told DH I really wanted to be there for his service Saturday. So on the road. Made reservations to fly back on the 1st to do all the wedding prep stuff then the dog and DH will drive back up there after the wedding. Insane. I may need to take up coffee again.