Ouch! Sorry.

Out of curiosity, when you first were taught about the Civil War in school were you taught that it wasn't really about slavery? I recall from third grade that I was taught that and it really wasn't until in college when watching a documentary that I realized that it really was all about slavery.

Argh. In a local political group, someone posted a video of a woman talking about how "we need another genocide," and said it was an example of what POC have to deal with every day. I'd seen that video before -- it was a short clip taken from a longer video, and in the context of the longer video, it was clear she was talking about Jews, not POC. So I said that, and posted a link to the longer video, and I was told that by doing that, and by bringing up the Holocaust, I was distracting from the real issue, which is the discrimination that POC face every day. Which, yes, they do, but that's not what that video is about, and I'm getting more and more frustrated that people in this thread are taking a video in which a woman talks about wanting to murder Jews, and then telling Jews that we're derailing when we say that that's what she's talking about. People are still posting about how this video is such a horrid example of what POC face, and how they, as white people, had no idea that there were people like this. And that would be an important conversation to have, but not on this video.

I'm frustrated.

So I broke my toe Monday night. And now I'm waiting to get a wisdom tooth extraction.

{{tommyrot}} Talk about pain from head to toe!

Out of curiosity, when you first were taught about the Civil War in school were you taught that it wasn't really about slavery?

My heritage and schooling is all NE Yankee, and I don't remember it being taught as anything but all about slavery.

Also, I am having a hard time totally ignoring my nephew and his repeated posts about us destroying history and so forth with removing statues. Of course always with side comments about how enlightened and not bigoted he is. Ignoring him is best. Ignoring him is best. Ignoring him is best.

Yikes, tommyrot! Healing~ma.

Gudanov, I was taught that the Civil War was all about slavery. I was in a school in Michigan when we covered it, though. I suspect that the topic might have been addressed differently if I'd been in NC when we went over it.

Hil, that's unfortunate. It's not like there aren't plenty of videos showing people being jaw-droppingly racist out there that could be used.

Yeah. I'm not trying to say, "Don't have a conversation about racism." I'm trying to say, "Don't say that antisemitism is irrelevant when you just posted a video of a woman holding a baby and saying that she wants to murder Jews."

I have no memory of learning about the civil war in school. Or much of anything else, for that matter. So I couldn't say.

I'm with Jessica--dehydration may cause/be one of the causes of a headache for me, but once the headache happens, drinking water isn't really effective (at least in the short term?) especially if it's a migraine.

I'm pretty sure that I was taught that the Civil War was about slavery. I remember thinking it was ridiculous when I learned that some people said it was about other stuff.

Hil those people need to be told to find a different video. Knowingly putting by up a video of someone who espouses killing anyone, even if they do not say that in the clip they post, is invalidating any inclusionary point they are trying to make.

In the clip, the woman says something like, "I think there should be another genocide. I mean, a genocide. Those people are like poison. I want there to be opportunities for my white children." It was pretty clear to me that "those people" were Jews, and the full clip that I found definitely says so, but the person who posted it thought that the woman was talking about POC, and now the person who posted it is saying that, since she posted it to start a conversation about POC, any discussion of antisemitism or the Holocaust on her post is derailing. It seems like the only welcome comments are, "I support POC." (Which, of course, I do, but I'm angry that people are just blithely saying, "Oh, but this video was just given as an example of what POC face -- it doesn't matter who she was actually talking about." And one person who said that she's sure that the woman in the video doesn't even know what the Holocaust was, because she's clearly uneducated, and that's just not how white supremacy works -- I guarantee, every white supremacist in the country knows about the Holocaust (whether they believe it happened or not) and has an opinion about Jews. In the full video, her husband even says something like, "I don't really care so much about the blacks -- it's the Jews who are ruining everything.")