I'm pretty sure that I was taught that the Civil War was about slavery. I remember thinking it was ridiculous when I learned that some people said it was about other stuff.

Hil those people need to be told to find a different video. Knowingly putting by up a video of someone who espouses killing anyone, even if they do not say that in the clip they post, is invalidating any inclusionary point they are trying to make.

In the clip, the woman says something like, "I think there should be another genocide. I mean, a genocide. Those people are like poison. I want there to be opportunities for my white children." It was pretty clear to me that "those people" were Jews, and the full clip that I found definitely says so, but the person who posted it thought that the woman was talking about POC, and now the person who posted it is saying that, since she posted it to start a conversation about POC, any discussion of antisemitism or the Holocaust on her post is derailing. It seems like the only welcome comments are, "I support POC." (Which, of course, I do, but I'm angry that people are just blithely saying, "Oh, but this video was just given as an example of what POC face -- it doesn't matter who she was actually talking about." And one person who said that she's sure that the woman in the video doesn't even know what the Holocaust was, because she's clearly uneducated, and that's just not how white supremacy works -- I guarantee, every white supremacist in the country knows about the Holocaust (whether they believe it happened or not) and has an opinion about Jews. In the full video, her husband even says something like, "I don't really care so much about the blacks -- it's the Jews who are ruining everything.")

And now I somehow got into a different discussion about the same video on Twitter.

Tooth extraction went OK. There was no drilling this time.

I learned at a young age that the civil war was about slavery. I don't remember if we learned that in school or if I just read about it, possibly in our World Book Encyclopedia.

Out of curiosity, when you first were taught about the Civil War in school were you taught that it wasn't really about slavery? I recall from third grade that I was taught that and it really wasn't until in college when watching a documentary that I realized that it really was all about slavery.

I had a bit of the opposite- in NYS it was always all about slavery and also a bit about how great we are in the North and how great it was that Rochester had Frederick Douglass and Susan B. ANthony and other great abolitionists.

In college is when I first heard that it was not "all about slavery", but I think it was presented more as an antidote to the "Aren't the North and Lincoln the great saviors of all slaves who are wonderful good people unlike those horrible confederates" than a real argument that states rights were the only reason.

So I broke my toe Monday night. And now I'm waiting to get a wisdom tooth extraction.

Ouch. I hope you are getting the good drugs. I got a Valium IV. It was gooooooood.

Nope. Just ibuprofen. Which is adequate for the toe. Once the anesthetic wears off in my mouth we'll see how ibuprofen works for that. It was ok the last time I had wisdom teeth removed.

Just spent three minutes helpless with laughter as co-worker described coping with a kidney stone. He got to the part of having to strain his pee and the difficulty of coordinating the little cup with fluid trajectories. "This is not a thing for the novice male, this is some serious hand-eye coordination."

Out of curiosity, when you first were taught about the Civil War in school were you taught that it wasn't really about slavery?

Probably. I don't remember being taught about the Civil War specifically until middle school. My history teacher challenged some ideas...like the South were better soldiers. (Something i grew up hearing...i think blockades were blamed for the South losing).

I don't remember covering it at all in high school but my high school experience was a patch work.