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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Aug 23, 2017 4:22:23 am PDT #15768 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I've definitely gotten headaches that were caused by dehydration, but once an actual headache appears, the only cure is painkillers. Drinking water after the fact doesn't help me much.


Calli - Aug 23, 2017 4:36:49 am PDT #15769 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I have a headache now, and I'm pretty sure it's being caused by a weather front moving in. On the upside, the weather front will probably kill 90+F temps for the rest of the summer, and I'm willing to live with a few hours of pain for that.

Water may help in that it's washing down the ibuprofen. But not on its own.


tommyrot - Aug 23, 2017 5:10:33 am PDT #15770 of 30002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

So I broke my toe Monday night. And now I'm waiting to get a wisdom tooth extraction.

But I do feel better about the background check after reading posts here.


Gudanov - Aug 23, 2017 5:11:07 am PDT #15771 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Ouch! Sorry.


Gudanov - Aug 23, 2017 5:14:40 am PDT #15772 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Out of curiosity, when you first were taught about the Civil War in school were you taught that it wasn't really about slavery? I recall from third grade that I was taught that and it really wasn't until in college when watching a documentary that I realized that it really was all about slavery.


Hil R. - Aug 23, 2017 5:28:03 am PDT #15773 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Argh. In a local political group, someone posted a video of a woman talking about how "we need another genocide," and said it was an example of what POC have to deal with every day. I'd seen that video before -- it was a short clip taken from a longer video, and in the context of the longer video, it was clear she was talking about Jews, not POC. So I said that, and posted a link to the longer video, and I was told that by doing that, and by bringing up the Holocaust, I was distracting from the real issue, which is the discrimination that POC face every day. Which, yes, they do, but that's not what that video is about, and I'm getting more and more frustrated that people in this thread are taking a video in which a woman talks about wanting to murder Jews, and then telling Jews that we're derailing when we say that that's what she's talking about. People are still posting about how this video is such a horrid example of what POC face, and how they, as white people, had no idea that there were people like this. And that would be an important conversation to have, but not on this video.

I'm frustrated.


Laura - Aug 23, 2017 5:30:06 am PDT #15774 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

So I broke my toe Monday night. And now I'm waiting to get a wisdom tooth extraction.

{{tommyrot}} Talk about pain from head to toe!

Out of curiosity, when you first were taught about the Civil War in school were you taught that it wasn't really about slavery?

My heritage and schooling is all NE Yankee, and I don't remember it being taught as anything but all about slavery.

Also, I am having a hard time totally ignoring my nephew and his repeated posts about us destroying history and so forth with removing statues. Of course always with side comments about how enlightened and not bigoted he is. Ignoring him is best. Ignoring him is best. Ignoring him is best.


Calli - Aug 23, 2017 5:32:11 am PDT #15775 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Yikes, tommyrot! Healing~ma.

Gudanov, I was taught that the Civil War was all about slavery. I was in a school in Michigan when we covered it, though. I suspect that the topic might have been addressed differently if I'd been in NC when we went over it.

Hil, that's unfortunate. It's not like there aren't plenty of videos showing people being jaw-droppingly racist out there that could be used.


Hil R. - Aug 23, 2017 5:41:55 am PDT #15776 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Yeah. I'm not trying to say, "Don't have a conversation about racism." I'm trying to say, "Don't say that antisemitism is irrelevant when you just posted a video of a woman holding a baby and saying that she wants to murder Jews."


meara - Aug 23, 2017 5:42:20 am PDT #15777 of 30002

I have no memory of learning about the civil war in school. Or much of anything else, for that matter. So I couldn't say.

I'm with Jessica--dehydration may cause/be one of the causes of a headache for me, but once the headache happens, drinking water isn't really effective (at least in the short term?) especially if it's a migraine.