Oh, Liese. Thanks for sharing that.
There's something about a food that moves all by itself that gives me the heebie-jeebies.
Joyce ,'Never Leave Me'
Natter 74: Ready or Not
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jesse - Apr 26, 2016 10:10:56 am PDT #20441 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
EpicTangent - Apr 26, 2016 10:12:54 am PDT #20442 of 30003
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty
Thank you for trusting us with that, Liese. And for sharing what is presumably not comfortable to help someone else.
amyth - Apr 26, 2016 10:13:08 am PDT #20443 of 30003
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen
Thank you so much for sharing that, Liese.
WindSparrow - Apr 26, 2016 10:21:41 am PDT #20444 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.
Liese, thank you.
lisah - Apr 26, 2016 10:23:10 am PDT #20445 of 30003
Punishingly Intricate
yeah, what Kate said.
Zenkitty - Apr 26, 2016 10:30:34 am PDT #20446 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I want to offer my thanks also, Liese, and acknowledgment of how hard it must surely have been. I hope it helps Gud, but my thanks are personal, it helps me understand my sister a little better. She's an angry person too, and a good and worthwhile person in spite of the not-good way she deals with it.
Dana - Apr 26, 2016 10:39:48 am PDT #20447 of 30003
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
(Okay, now I am taking another (or possibly the first) pill. Worst that can happen is some stomach unhappiness, and that would make a lovely break from the pounding head.)
If I can follow up on some of what Liese's saying, it sounds like a lot of the time, your wife is ascribing motive to you, Gud. If you don't get something done, or if you do something she disagrees with, she decides that it's because you're intentionally trying to hurt or upset her. The key is separating those things, and it's something I find hard to do.
Just because my husband follows behind me to correct the way I load the dishwasher (which will always irk me), it doesn't mean he's doing it on purpose to irritate me, or because he thinks I'm an idiot who can't put things in the dishwasher, or because he thinks he should be in control of everything.
I can't armchair diagnose what's going on, but if she's going to always conflate what you do with who you are, that's going to cause problems. Some people are probably really good at separating those things. For me, I have to work at it, and it's a learned skill like so many other things.
P.M. Marc - Apr 26, 2016 11:18:02 am PDT #20448 of 30003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Liese, I respect you so much. As the post is temporary, I won't go into specifics, but it's a tremendous help for me in dealing with and reframing some of the downsides of my activist spaces.
msbelle - Apr 26, 2016 11:21:22 am PDT #20449 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Liese, thank you.
Maria - Apr 26, 2016 11:27:49 am PDT #20450 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift
Liese, thank you, and mad respect. I see a LOT of myself in that post and working on changing some of the less than stellar behaviors is one of the hardest things I've ever done. I feel a little less alone now. Much love.