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Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Dana - Apr 26, 2016 10:39:48 am PDT #20447 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

(Okay, now I am taking another (or possibly the first) pill. Worst that can happen is some stomach unhappiness, and that would make a lovely break from the pounding head.)

If I can follow up on some of what Liese's saying, it sounds like a lot of the time, your wife is ascribing motive to you, Gud. If you don't get something done, or if you do something she disagrees with, she decides that it's because you're intentionally trying to hurt or upset her. The key is separating those things, and it's something I find hard to do.

Just because my husband follows behind me to correct the way I load the dishwasher (which will always irk me), it doesn't mean he's doing it on purpose to irritate me, or because he thinks I'm an idiot who can't put things in the dishwasher, or because he thinks he should be in control of everything.

I can't armchair diagnose what's going on, but if she's going to always conflate what you do with who you are, that's going to cause problems. Some people are probably really good at separating those things. For me, I have to work at it, and it's a learned skill like so many other things.


P.M. Marc - Apr 26, 2016 11:18:02 am PDT #20448 of 30003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Liese, I respect you so much. As the post is temporary, I won't go into specifics, but it's a tremendous help for me in dealing with and reframing some of the downsides of my activist spaces.


msbelle - Apr 26, 2016 11:21:22 am PDT #20449 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Liese, thank you.


Maria - Apr 26, 2016 11:27:49 am PDT #20450 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Liese, thank you, and mad respect. I see a LOT of myself in that post and working on changing some of the less than stellar behaviors is one of the hardest things I've ever done. I feel a little less alone now. Much love.


shrift - Apr 26, 2016 11:35:35 am PDT #20451 of 30003
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Liese, thank you so much for sharing that. It means a lot.

I've had to do a lot of work to let go of perfectionism, because it was doing me zero good. Also taking more ownership over my own actions and what I can control, and doing my best to let go of things I can't control. I meditate to practice being calm so that I can take a moment and not react defensively or disrespectfully. I'm still a jerk in my head a lot of the time, but I'm not as much of a jerk as I used to be, so work in progress.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 26, 2016 11:42:07 am PDT #20452 of 30003
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Thanks very much for being brave enough to post that in order to offer a friend perspective, Liese.


Connie Neil - Apr 26, 2016 11:48:13 am PDT #20453 of 30003
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If you don't get something done, or if you do something she disagrees with, she decides that it's because you're intentionally trying to hurt or upset her.

Oh, dear lord, that haunted the first years of my marriage. Given I only had Hubby's word for it, but his ex seems to have been that kind of manipulative (given she'd gone through 4 husbands in a pattern of "marry him, get pregnant, divorce him and get support", no, really 4 times, there may have been pre-meditation). But eventually, enough repetitions of "Why would I intentionally want to hurt you?" got through to him. Mostly.


Atropa - Apr 26, 2016 11:53:36 am PDT #20454 of 30003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Liese, that was very brave of you. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

Gud, because it should be repeated: you're a good, worthwhile person. Please take care of yourself.


Sue - Apr 26, 2016 11:56:57 am PDT #20455 of 30003
hip deep in pie

Gud, listen to Liese, she is wise.

Liese, thank you so much for that.


Dana - Apr 26, 2016 12:20:37 pm PDT #20456 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

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