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Zenkitty - May 09, 2016 5:00:14 pm PDT #982 of 4004
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Yeah, I have to see it again to catch all the stuff I missed the first time!


P.M. Marc - May 09, 2016 5:15:20 pm PDT #983 of 4004
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Only seen it twice, but... do we see anyone's personal living space other than Bucky's (forced out of) and Wanda's (locked into)?

I'm making a list of things to note the next viewing.

now I want to contrast the way that Steve enters Wanda's room with the way Vision does. This is also on the next-viewing list.


Connie Neil - May 09, 2016 6:33:05 pm PDT #984 of 4004
brillig

So Hydra had Howard killed for whatever was in the trunk. I'm surprised no one questioned by Maria was strangled, but perhaps there was more mangling involved. Still, injuries not consistent with car wreck. But I'm sure everyone's first thought was "Crap, Stark must have been drunk, quick, cover it all up."

But imagine Obadiah's reaction. As I read in a fic somewhere "Maybe he thought Christmas came early." He had to have been wondering who orchestrated it and why--and if he had to watch his own back.

Unless he and Hydra had an understanding.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 09, 2016 6:41:09 pm PDT #985 of 4004
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Upon rewatch, Steve's "I knew" definitely sounded to me as if he was admitting that he figured out Bucky was the one HYDRA had kill the Starks, even if he had no proof.


Connie Neil - May 09, 2016 6:43:35 pm PDT #986 of 4004
brillig

I'm with Matt, Steve had to suspect, because Zola was definitely hinting hard about connections.

So were the other Winter Soldiers activated? Or were they being held in reserve?


Steph L. - May 09, 2016 7:05:22 pm PDT #987 of 4004
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I also thought Steve knew (or strongly suspected) that Bucky killed Howard and Maria.


P.M. Marc - May 09, 2016 7:15:39 pm PDT #988 of 4004
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Matt, after two watches, I'm still going with didn't want to know for sure, even if he knew on some level, and intentionally didn't poke it with a stick.


P.M. Marc - May 09, 2016 7:23:16 pm PDT #989 of 4004
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Also, that he's admitting that to himself as much as to Tony.


P.M. Marc - May 09, 2016 7:56:14 pm PDT #990 of 4004
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Threepeat

It seems to tie into what he said in the letter, y'know? Also, man. I am so impressed with how they set things up, no matter what the specific intent was there. The reminder after things have gone south but before they have hit the point of no turning back, penguins at the gate south, that Howard was Steve's friend as well as Tony's dad. So much stuff in every line.


Zenkitty - May 09, 2016 7:56:38 pm PDT #991 of 4004
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I thought Steve was admitting that he'd known Bucky did it.

The other Winter Soldiers were killed by Zola in their cryo-sleep. Pretty sure I saw bullet holes in them.