Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


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Jessica - Jul 15, 2021 8:50:58 am PDT #3458 of 3944
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I feel like this ep was punishment for all the fans who ever complained about every Marvel series ending with a CGI lightshow battle.

"Don't like big blowout fight scenes? Fine, we'll have the heroes spend half the episode sitting quietly and listening to the villain explain the plot. HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES"


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2021 9:01:34 am PDT #3459 of 3944
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.

I did think, for about 30 seconds or so, that Miss Minutes was the actual mastermind behind the entire TVA. I would have been impressed if Marvel went with that.

My brother reminded me this morning that about 3 weeks ago he texted me a picture of his Kang action figure (which of course he has), with the text "There are no Timekeepers; only Kang." He's very pleased with himself for calling that one.


dcp - Jul 15, 2021 9:08:23 am PDT #3460 of 3944
"I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam," -- Popeye

for about 30 seconds or so,

Me, too. I would have preferred that to what we got.


Jessica - Jul 15, 2021 9:15:01 am PDT #3461 of 3944
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Tep, me too, and I would have LOVED that outcome.


-t - Jul 15, 2021 9:25:46 am PDT #3462 of 3944
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yes, Tep!

HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES"

Bwahahaha and no, them apples are sour and wormy, do not want


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2021 10:25:16 am PDT #3463 of 3944
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

I figured, with the whole castle at the end of time thing, that it HAD to be Immortus/Kang behind the TVA. But man did they find a blah way to go about that reveal and the end of the season.


Jesse - Jul 15, 2021 10:28:39 am PDT #3464 of 3944
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I feel like this ep was punishment for all the fans who ever complained about ever Marvel series ending with a CGI lightshow battle.

Ha! Yesterday morning, my cousin texted me that she had already seen negative things about the finale, and my response was literally "I wasn't that big on the WandaVision finale, or the end of Black Widow for that matter! So I won't be surprised if they end with a huge fight for no good reason"


DavidS - Jul 15, 2021 10:34:32 am PDT #3465 of 3944
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I didn't mind the ending.

The AVClub did a good job rounding up the issues though: [link]

(tl;dr: Pivoted too hard away from Mobius/Loki; didn't set up Loki/Sylvie enough; Why was Sylvie a master planner acting impetuously at the end; didn't set up the reveal; not satisfying for a single season finale, but fine for a mid-story cliffhanger...)


Toddson - Jul 15, 2021 10:39:27 am PDT #3466 of 3944
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I see TVA and think Tennessee Valley Authority/Agency ... but then it took me a while to not automatically think BLM was Bureau of Land Management. sigh ... bureaucracy ....


-t - Jul 15, 2021 11:40:30 am PDT #3467 of 3944
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Me too, Toddson!

I honestly thought Loki (the series but also I guess the character) has been lacking in shenanigans and mischief all season, I don't know that I have *more* to complain about wrt to the finale it's just now I know there won't be shenanigans coming as I always kind of hoped previously?