Wash: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction. Zoe: We live in a space ship, dear. Wash: So?

'Objects In Space'


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-t - Jul 15, 2021 9:25:46 am PDT #3462 of 3944
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yes, Tep!

HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES"

Bwahahaha and no, them apples are sour and wormy, do not want


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2021 10:25:16 am PDT #3463 of 3944
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

I figured, with the whole castle at the end of time thing, that it HAD to be Immortus/Kang behind the TVA. But man did they find a blah way to go about that reveal and the end of the season.


Jesse - Jul 15, 2021 10:28:39 am PDT #3464 of 3944
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I feel like this ep was punishment for all the fans who ever complained about ever Marvel series ending with a CGI lightshow battle.

Ha! Yesterday morning, my cousin texted me that she had already seen negative things about the finale, and my response was literally "I wasn't that big on the WandaVision finale, or the end of Black Widow for that matter! So I won't be surprised if they end with a huge fight for no good reason"


DavidS - Jul 15, 2021 10:34:32 am PDT #3465 of 3944
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I didn't mind the ending.

The AVClub did a good job rounding up the issues though: [link]

(tl;dr: Pivoted too hard away from Mobius/Loki; didn't set up Loki/Sylvie enough; Why was Sylvie a master planner acting impetuously at the end; didn't set up the reveal; not satisfying for a single season finale, but fine for a mid-story cliffhanger...)


Toddson - Jul 15, 2021 10:39:27 am PDT #3466 of 3944
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I see TVA and think Tennessee Valley Authority/Agency ... but then it took me a while to not automatically think BLM was Bureau of Land Management. sigh ... bureaucracy ....


-t - Jul 15, 2021 11:40:30 am PDT #3467 of 3944
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Me too, Toddson!

I honestly thought Loki (the series but also I guess the character) has been lacking in shenanigans and mischief all season, I don't know that I have *more* to complain about wrt to the finale it's just now I know there won't be shenanigans coming as I always kind of hoped previously?


Atropa - Jul 15, 2021 4:46:26 pm PDT #3468 of 3944
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I was meh on the final episode of Loki was a lot of exposition monologue. A LOT. I was glad that it wasn't non-stop CGI fighting, but if the big reveal is "Surprise! S2! Which means we're going to kinda-sorta wrap up one plot point but nothing else!" then it didn't do its job.

Yeah yeah I know, setting up a whole bunch of next wave MCU things. That's not a good enough reason.

Weirdly, Mr. Loomy really liked the final ep. But he is a huge fan of convoluted plot twists that keep going .

But if S2 is non-stop Loki having existential crisis and and "A crocodile?!" sorts of things, I would be happy. I don't particularly care about action omg timeline chaos the end of everything! I just want flummoxed and out of his depth Loki.


-t - Jul 15, 2021 4:55:09 pm PDT #3469 of 3944
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The one thing I keep thinking is that when Loki pops up at the TVA and tells Mobius and that hunter whose name I can't remember because it's just a letter and a number that the guy he saw at the end of time is terrifying my first thought was "he is?" I was also surprised back when Mobius called Loki a bad friend because I didn't think they were friends yet so maybe I am just not watching right or something


Steph L. - Jul 15, 2021 5:28:22 pm PDT #3470 of 3944
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.

Here's an interesting article about the retro set design of the TVA: [link]


askye - Jul 15, 2021 7:13:26 pm PDT #3471 of 3944
Thrive to spite them

I want to get some sort of short film or piece about crocodile Loki. Or Crocodile Loki and Kid Loki.