I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that.
Inara: So, explain to me again why Zoe wasn't in the dress? Mal: Tactics, woman. Needed her in the back. 'Sides, those soft cotton dresses feel kinda nice. It's the whole... air-flow.
'Our Mrs. Reynolds'
Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises
Discussion of all Marvel Cinematic Universe related movies and TV shows, including, but not limited to, the Avengers, Captain America, Agent Carter, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Daredevil, Spider-Man, Ant-Man, etc., etc., etc. ad-infinitum.
Discussion of non-MCU Marvel titles like the X-Men or the Fantastic Four is also permitted. Ties to comics may be discussed, but this is not the primary forum for comics discussion (see the Other Media thread).
Spoiler policy: For broadcast TV shows, blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast. For movies and Internet streaming shows, whitefont all plot-related discussion until it's been in wide release two weeks. Posters are encouraged to preface their posts to indicate the subject, particulary if switching subjects.
Steph L. - Jul 14, 2021 8:25:09 pm PDT #3456 of 3942
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.
Consuela - Jul 14, 2021 11:20:08 pm PDT #3457 of 3942
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
yeah. My standard for finales is: must be surprising and yet inevitable, simultaneously. Cannot pull some bullshit out of your backpocket: gotta drop enough clues but add a good twist so it's not predictable.
I found this to be sourced from the backpocket. Kind of disappointing, despite the good character work done by all parties.
Still not completely sold on altruistic Loki, though.
Jessica - Jul 15, 2021 8:50:58 am PDT #3458 of 3942
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I feel like this ep was punishment for all the fans who ever complained about every Marvel series ending with a CGI lightshow battle.
"Don't like big blowout fight scenes? Fine, we'll have the heroes spend half the episode sitting quietly and listening to the villain explain the plot. HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES"
Steph L. - Jul 15, 2021 9:01:34 am PDT #3459 of 3942
Apparently if you're enough of a power nerd, there is nothing that cannot be flowcharted.
I did think, for about 30 seconds or so, that Miss Minutes was the actual mastermind behind the entire TVA. I would have been impressed if Marvel went with that.
My brother reminded me this morning that about 3 weeks ago he texted me a picture of his Kang action figure (which of course he has), with the text "There are no Timekeepers; only Kang." He's very pleased with himself for calling that one.
dcp - Jul 15, 2021 9:08:23 am PDT #3460 of 3942
"I yam what I yam and that's all what I yam," -- Popeye
for about 30 seconds or so,
Me, too. I would have preferred that to what we got.
Jessica - Jul 15, 2021 9:15:01 am PDT #3461 of 3942
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
Tep, me too, and I would have LOVED that outcome.
-t - Jul 15, 2021 9:25:46 am PDT #3462 of 3942
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Yes, Tep!
HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES"
Bwahahaha and no, them apples are sour and wormy, do not want
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 15, 2021 10:25:16 am PDT #3463 of 3942
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis
I figured, with the whole castle at the end of time thing, that it HAD to be Immortus/Kang behind the TVA. But man did they find a blah way to go about that reveal and the end of the season.
Jesse - Jul 15, 2021 10:28:39 am PDT #3464 of 3942
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I feel like this ep was punishment for all the fans who ever complained about ever Marvel series ending with a CGI lightshow battle.
Ha! Yesterday morning, my cousin texted me that she had already seen negative things about the finale, and my response was literally "I wasn't that big on the WandaVision finale, or the end of Black Widow for that matter! So I won't be surprised if they end with a huge fight for no good reason"
DavidS - Jul 15, 2021 10:34:32 am PDT #3465 of 3942
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I didn't mind the ending.
The AVClub did a good job rounding up the issues though: [link]
(tl;dr: Pivoted too hard away from Mobius/Loki; didn't set up Loki/Sylvie enough; Why was Sylvie a master planner acting impetuously at the end; didn't set up the reveal; not satisfying for a single season finale, but fine for a mid-story cliffhanger...)