I am not...I am not the damsel in distress. I am not some case. I have to work this. I've lived in a cave for 5 years in a world where they killed my kind like cattle. I am not going to be cut down by some monster flu. I am better than that. What a wonder...how very scared I am.

Fred ,'A Hole in the World'


Marvel Universe: Infinite Chrises

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Dana - Jul 24, 2017 8:44:55 am PDT #1588 of 4006
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Do you think there were negotiations for Evans to have the beard in this movie? "Fine, I'll sign the Sokovia Accords, but only if I can grow a beard."


Connie Neil - Jul 24, 2017 10:12:15 am PDT #1589 of 4006
brillig

They better have Tony making some smart remark and Steve snarking back properly as part of their reconciliation.

Ideally I want them both to say "I'm sorry" at the same time, then smile, then Bucky comes in and it's all problematic again but they can at least work together.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2017 10:33:34 am PDT #1590 of 4006
Compassionately intolerant

I was not wild about Spider-Man. It stressed me out that he was such a menace! Stop causing disasters, kid! Call the cops and go home!!

I kept thinking, "THIS is why we have then Sugovia Accords. Stop making wanton destruction of public property and imperiling the lives of those you seek to protect a THING, dude."

Go clean your room. Get some perspective.

But still, I loved it otherwise.


Steph L. - Jul 24, 2017 10:40:05 am PDT #1591 of 4006
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I was not wild about Spider-Man. It stressed me out that he was such a menace! Stop causing disasters, kid! Call the cops and go home!!

But that was the point. He was 15, and the whole point of a Spidey origin film is the whole With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility thing. He was supposed to fuck up. Because he was 15, which is (no pun intended) in stark contrast to the OG Avengers, who are comparatively old as shit. (And also keep fucking things up nonetheless.)


Connie Neil - Jul 24, 2017 10:44:46 am PDT #1592 of 4006
brillig

Plus the whole "No one takes me seriously that I see trouble coming because I'm just a kid, so I have to do something" thing.


Steph L. - Jul 24, 2017 10:48:12 am PDT #1593 of 4006
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Plus the whole "No one takes me seriously that I see trouble coming because I'm just a kid, so I have to do something" thing.

I get that, for the purposes of character growth, the film had to have Happy ignore Peter's calls, or else Iron Man would come to the rescue every single time (instead of just a couple of times). But that got old REALLY quickly.


Jesse - Jul 24, 2017 11:03:29 am PDT #1594 of 4006
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

But that was the point.

I get that, I just didn't find it enjoyable.


Connie Neil - Jul 24, 2017 11:16:34 am PDT #1595 of 4006
brillig

I was actually surprised--though I shouldn't have been, I guess--that the Vulture turned out to be who he was. That car ride with the realizations on both sides was very stressful to watch.


Steph L. - Jul 24, 2017 11:22:09 am PDT #1596 of 4006
I look more rad than Lutheranism

It was SO stressful! But really well done.


beekaytee - Jul 24, 2017 11:23:42 am PDT #1597 of 4006
Compassionately intolerant

Totally agreed on that point, Connie. Super stressful.

the OG Avengers, who are comparatively old as shit.

Well, that it true, too.