I knew Pillow Princess, but Stone Butch was new.
Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'
Natter 72: We Were Unprepared for This
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Are all Pillow Princesses femme? Princess seems an unbutch thing to describe yourself as.
What's a pansexual lesbian?
Well, "Pillow Princess" generally sounds femme, but if you're using it in a semi-derogatory way, then the "princess" part could be part of that? It's someone who just lays there and gets fucked, and doesn't do anything for their partner.
Some people who ID as stone say they get enough pleasure (and/or even orgasm) from giving someone else pleasure.
And since those labels are self-given a lot of them are however that person wants to believe in them? Probably a pansexual lesbian is into all sorts of people but still strongly identifies as a female and as part of the lesbian community. Some people would go with "queer" in that instance, but others would want to specifically label both affiliations, if that makes sense?
West Wing question, when did Toby become all bitter as opposed to sort of bitter or intermittently bitter?
Well, "Pillow Princess" generally sounds femme, but if you're using it in a semi-derogatory way, then the "princess" part could be part of that? It's someone who just lays there and gets fucked, and doesn't do anything for their partner.
How is that even a gay term? That just seems like a sex term. I mean, not that I've heard it, but it's not partner-genders specific, I don't think...
It seems like it defeats a whole lot of the point of sex.
This. Never heard Pillow Princess before. I guess this counts for my learn something new every day! Just in the nick of time.
Giving her a [..] to explain away all the bad behaviour, pretty much,
See, I didn't take it as such. I took it as how much shit she would endure and endure and shove aside if it could ruin her path and derail her goals. Sure, it fucked her up a bit more, but she regained control. I'm thinking of the scene the next morning, I think?
It's all very greek-tragedy-warrior-queen.
How is that even a gay term? That just seems like a sex term.
Ehhhh....I mean, it isn't, technically. Generally it implies that the person who is the princess is getting serviced and the other person isn't getting much out of it, y'know? So, with oral, sure, but with PIV it doesn't quite work the same?
Fair enough.
That's how I saw it when we were first told about it, sarameg, but the way it played in the finale, nsm.