Xander ,'Get It Done'
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Well, "Pillow Princess" generally sounds femme, but if you're using it in a semi-derogatory way, then the "princess" part could be part of that? It's someone who just lays there and gets fucked, and doesn't do anything for their partner.
How is that even a gay term? That just seems like a sex term. I mean, not that I've heard it, but it's not partner-genders specific, I don't think...
It seems like it defeats a whole lot of the point of sex.
This. Never heard Pillow Princess before. I guess this counts for my learn something new every day! Just in the nick of time.
Giving her a [..] to explain away all the bad behaviour, pretty much,
See, I didn't take it as such. I took it as how much shit she would endure and endure and shove aside if it could ruin her path and derail her goals. Sure, it fucked her up a bit more, but she regained control. I'm thinking of the scene the next morning, I think?
It's all very greek-tragedy-warrior-queen.
How is that even a gay term? That just seems like a sex term.
Ehhhh....I mean, it isn't, technically. Generally it implies that the person who is the princess is getting serviced and the other person isn't getting much out of it, y'know? So, with oral, sure, but with PIV it doesn't quite work the same?
Fair enough.
That's how I saw it when we were first told about it, sarameg, but the way it played in the finale, nsm.
I felt like in the finale (which I agree was kinda a lot,) the reaction to the revelation was all about Fitz and Olivia's reactions and use of it, NSM her (outside of the whole DEAD SON mourning aspect.) About them trying not to be the callow selfish asses they are, using someone else's tragedy as their escape hatch. Again.
So yes, she's a being used as a tool once again, but that's the greekness of it. What does she do when it all falls apart? Call Olivia. She's trying to get back on the path to glory.
it played in the finale, nsm.
Yeah. Drunk!Mellie = super amusing, but such a fucking mess. A mess with a good reason, but mess nevertheless.
Oh, yeah, it was totally about Fitz and Olivia's reactions. Which is annoying.
THEY are annoying. It's like they're all the worst part of teenagedom. You end up rooting for the most adult of the awful, because at least they're not annoying.