I knew two people who did this. They died horribly. I don't know how to get through to people that, however toxic chemo and radiation are, they're better than the alternative. There is some evidence that if you have a Stage I hormone-positive breast cancer, then tamoxifen alone might be enough, but outside of that, refusing conventional treatment is a form of suicide.

I’m not sure where to begin the conversation on this.

There are some forms and stages of cancers that I wouldn’t aggressively treat. And I’ve seen some best case scenarios. But if my quality of life is going to go seriously down for maybe two more months of life, I don’t want that. I want to live and I want the chance at a relatively healthy life but that’s not always an option. And “cancer” is an easy word for an epically varied disease.

My friend PJ is alive and has two adopted kids because she fought and won. She’s a success story of the highest kind. My Dad probably got less quality of life and, honestly, no more quantity of life from treating his cancer.

It’s very situational. For me. What kind of cancer, where, what are the numbers (from 5 years ago because that’s what the stats usually are) saying that treatment can offer realistically.

How does his anti-vaxxer tendencies affect his accounting?

My guess is not at all except how I prefer to pay to support people that I also support more generally.

There’s a local dentist people like well enough as a dentist but he’s an ass, in local government and I loathe him. He’ll never be my dentist. Because supporting him in that way allows him to be in local government and I don’t agree with his beliefs.

Ok, the blogger addresses the fact that warm avocado, on its face, does not sound appealing. But I think I could be convinced.

It’s avocado, it’s persuasive. It’s persuaded me that keeping Benedryl on hand at all times is a legit thing to do because it is so delicious.

ION, we had a fire drill at the office I'm working at today, and I stood outside downwind of a few smokers for ten minutes. And the smell got into my sweater, and four hours later I feel like I'm in a bar. It's amazing how sensitized I've become over the years, as the public acceptance of smoking has declined.

Yeah, I remember a time when I'd get home from the bar smelling of smoke. I don't miss that time at all, and the few times I'm in a place (Virginia!!) when people can smoke it throws me.

I am having pho for dinner. I do nt want to be sick! I just got over being sick!!

Baked egg in avocado does not sound bad in theory but I feel like I'd have to scoop the avocado pretty well for the ratio to not be all kinda of off.

You'd like the restaurant, too, Jessica -- they have buffalo burgers and a local cheese board and wild game chili and wild boar chops, craft beer, etc. It was a lot of fun, and very delicious.

There are some forms and stages of cancers that I wouldn’t aggressively treat. And I’ve seen some best case scenarios. But if my quality of life is going to go seriously down for maybe two more months of life, I don’t want that. I want to live and I want the chance at a relatively healthy life but that’s not always an option. And “cancer” is an easy word for an epically varied disease.

I feel like that's a difference from "I want to fight this cancer with herbs!" And then being surprised and disappointed if it doesn't work.

I may have to make that baked avocado and egg thing soon. Like, tomorrow for lunch.

I feel like that's a difference from "I want to fight this cancer with herbs!" And then being surprised and disappointed if it doesn't work.

Oh, hugely. If you are fighting, use science. Science can include herbs and state of mind but with actual science involved.

There are some forms and stages of cancer I wouldn't aggressively treat either, but for the most part I'm with Ginger.

I was mainly reacting to the idea of fighting breast cancer with "natural" means rather than "toxic" science. Not treating certain slow-moving cancers can be a reasonable medical decision, but I think it should be a medical decision, not a rejection of science.

Steph, baked egg in avocado, with bacon

Sweet lord. I'm making that soon.

but I think it should be a medical decision, not a rejection of science.

I think it absolutely needs to be a medical choice. Or a personal choice to ignore medicine ignore what it can do for you (a lot!).

But there are times when, with full knowledge, I would choose not to treat. And it's an awful thing to consider.

But it can be done in a knowledgable way, I think. Often isn't. But I think it can be.