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Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


beekaytee - Jan 15, 2014 5:57:59 pm PST #8227 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

smonster, for your bed, I'd do a couple of quick aversion things like leaving cookie sheets with coins on them, or sheets of aluminum foil. Both the sound and the crinkle are aversive.

Crating, yay!

How about a baby gate in front of your door? The cats could jump over and Ratty would stay outside.

Things that will occupy a RT...nose games, like hiding treats in nooks and crannies and sending him to 'go find'. As simple as Cagney is, bless him, he LOVES this game. Sadly, he can actually watch me hide the treats and still has trouble finding them. Poor noodlebrain.

Ratties love to dig in search of things. If you have a ratty (pun intended) sheet, tuck a treat in a corner and then rollnwrap it up in the whole sheet. Let the pooch unravel the ball.

Teach him the 'relax' command. This is a stunted 'roll over' where you guide him to stop on his side and put his head down. It is very difficult, physiologically, for a pooch to stay tense when prone.

I recommend Pat Miller's "The Power of Positive Dog Training." Tons of graphically taught games and behaviors.

RTs are super smart (which is much of the problem). If you teach him the 'touch' command...where he puts his nose on your palm, you can use that one command to teach everything from a reliable recall to turning the lights on and off. It involves post-it notes. Pat and/or youtube can teach this.

For inspiration, search youtube for "Just Jesse". Jesse is as Jack, but the breed instincts are very similar...one seeks/destroys voles, the other rats. Verminexterminators, yo.


Connie Neil - Jan 15, 2014 6:13:48 pm PST #8228 of 30002
brillig

I forgot smonster asked for advice on the dog and thought bonny was giving her advice for getting out of bed on time.


Strix - Jan 15, 2014 6:17:08 pm PST #8229 of 30002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Ha, me too!

I was all, But how do you wake up enough to put the cookie sheets on your bed? And if someone else does it, where will she hide the body?!


sj - Jan 15, 2014 6:26:22 pm PST #8230 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

smonster, good for you!

I forgot to mention I finally have the new thyroid medication with no lactose! My stomach is still aggravated with me from the weeks of taking the other pill, but I'm hoping that will end soon.


smonster - Jan 15, 2014 6:28:53 pm PST #8231 of 30002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

bonny, thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, a baby gate won't work - Xusha has arthritis so he can jump higher than she can. And he's smaller than both the cats, so he can get where ever they can. Will ponder the other things - I don't want to scare my animals off the bed. Oh, and I've shared your tips with the roomie.


Pix - Jan 15, 2014 6:29:46 pm PST #8232 of 30002
The status is NOT quo.

The article we were discussing was more about situations where kids were excluding other kids but not being pervasively aggressive or targeting them. More where kids are figuring out power relationships or not wanting to be friends with everyone and parents overreact, which was not at all the case with Aims and Em, who I wasn't meaning to include at all when I responded to GC and Burrell. I'm sorry if I articulated it poorly; end of a long day and my brain isn't working so well.


Ginger - Jan 15, 2014 6:42:35 pm PST #8233 of 30002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I bet smonster would be awake after she unrolled the sheet for her treat.


meara - Jan 15, 2014 7:08:15 pm PST #8234 of 30002

Perhaps I'm being ridiculously dense, but I fail to see the meaningful distinction that many people seem to see between "kids being assholes" and "bullying."

Eh, I think doing stuff like not being friends with someone/not inviting them places is not bullying. It may suck and kids may do it in an assholic ( or emotionally undeveloped) way, but it's not the same as not being friendly? And then it can totally cross a line into bullying when it's all "everyone is invited to my house...but NOT you" or whatver.

I actually think that that's sort of representative of some of the reasons anti-bullying campaigns are so rarely effective (and they are rarely effective). No one thinks they're the one being a bully because they're not the kid from A Christmas Story.

I can totally see this, though.


beekaytee - Jan 15, 2014 7:26:36 pm PST #8235 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

I forgot smonster asked for advice on the dog and thought bonny was giving her advice for getting out of bed on time.

This gave me a real-life belly laugh. Cheers.


Burrell - Jan 15, 2014 8:22:40 pm PST #8236 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

situations where kids were excluding other kids but not being pervasively aggressive or targeting them.

That's the distinction I was trying to make in Franny's case. She wasn't targeted, and she was never told that this thing or that thing about her was bad, but she was often the one who was on the outside.

I think I am also resistant to calling it bullying because the behaviors are almost unconscious. They don't realize what they are doing, even when called on it. It's almost like kids have to learn to be respectful and considerate of others, being an asshole from time to time comes naturally.