I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Ginger - Jan 15, 2014 6:42:35 pm PST #8233 of 30002
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I bet smonster would be awake after she unrolled the sheet for her treat.


meara - Jan 15, 2014 7:08:15 pm PST #8234 of 30002

Perhaps I'm being ridiculously dense, but I fail to see the meaningful distinction that many people seem to see between "kids being assholes" and "bullying."

Eh, I think doing stuff like not being friends with someone/not inviting them places is not bullying. It may suck and kids may do it in an assholic ( or emotionally undeveloped) way, but it's not the same as not being friendly? And then it can totally cross a line into bullying when it's all "everyone is invited to my house...but NOT you" or whatver.

I actually think that that's sort of representative of some of the reasons anti-bullying campaigns are so rarely effective (and they are rarely effective). No one thinks they're the one being a bully because they're not the kid from A Christmas Story.

I can totally see this, though.


beekaytee - Jan 15, 2014 7:26:36 pm PST #8235 of 30002
Compassionately intolerant

I forgot smonster asked for advice on the dog and thought bonny was giving her advice for getting out of bed on time.

This gave me a real-life belly laugh. Cheers.


Burrell - Jan 15, 2014 8:22:40 pm PST #8236 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

situations where kids were excluding other kids but not being pervasively aggressive or targeting them.

That's the distinction I was trying to make in Franny's case. She wasn't targeted, and she was never told that this thing or that thing about her was bad, but she was often the one who was on the outside.

I think I am also resistant to calling it bullying because the behaviors are almost unconscious. They don't realize what they are doing, even when called on it. It's almost like kids have to learn to be respectful and considerate of others, being an asshole from time to time comes naturally.


DavidS - Jan 15, 2014 9:28:49 pm PST #8237 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It's almost like kids have to learn to be respectful and considerate of others, being an asshole from time to time comes naturally.

I think empathy develops late. Some kids have it earlier (Matilda does) but generally most kids don't have a sense of other kids suffering until they've suffered themselves. It's another kind of privilege in a way - because you don't see it. You take your status for granted and don't think about people being excluded.


Hil R. - Jan 16, 2014 3:25:54 am PST #8238 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm at the math conference now. I have coffee and a thing that calls itself a bagel. (It is not. It is a roll.) I've got one interview today and one tomorrow.


amych - Jan 16, 2014 4:10:48 am PST #8239 of 30002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

~ma, Hil! Sorry about the crap bagel!


sj - Jan 16, 2014 5:08:40 am PST #8240 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Interview~ma Hil.

I'm in the waiting room. I don't think they gave me enough Valium.


Pix - Jan 16, 2014 5:28:32 am PST #8241 of 30002
The status is NOT quo.

Thinking of you, sj. It will be okay!


Zenkitty - Jan 16, 2014 6:01:26 am PST #8242 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Vibing for you, sj!