Zoe: Don't think it's a good spot, sir. She still has the advantage over us. Mal: Everyone always does. That's what makes us special.

'Serenity'


Spike's Bitches 48: I Say, We Go Out There, and Kick a Little Demon Ass.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Connie Neil - Mar 12, 2016 9:34:57 am PST #23580 of 30002
brillig

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Laura - Mar 12, 2016 9:50:19 am PST #23581 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

smonster, it's good to hear you making positive changes! You deserve everything good.

Yes, This!

My marriage is never hard work for me, but compromises, and/or agreeing to disagree at times is needed. Children add another level of complication to marriage, but they do in general! But 100% the fun stuff is more fun and the hard stuff is less burdensome.

It might be hard work if you have the personality type that has to have their won way all the time, and I know some in this category that can't manage to keep a relationship solid. My experience is that if you are committed to things working out then you are mindful of the other person's needs/phobias/buttons and decide to work through obstacles that appear.

In 5 days I celebrate my 26th wedding anniversary!! If I count the previous marriages I have been married 42 years, or twice as long as I spent single. Me = old.


Steph L. - Mar 12, 2016 10:23:41 am PST #23582 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It might be hard work if you have the personality type that has to have their won way all the time, and I know some in this category that can't manage to keep a relationship solid.

I fully admit that part of what makes our marriage so easy is that while I am extremely opinionated and bossy, Tim is unbelievably easygoing and agreeable and often doesn't even want to be the one to decide stuff (like what to have for dinner), so a lot of the time I get my way by default. But I try to be really mindful of the times he actually expresses a preference and go with it, since he's pretty undemanding otherwise.


Burrell - Mar 12, 2016 10:38:42 am PST #23583 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

OK I'll be the person who says the work that goes into a marriage can be good and also be hard work that sometimes feels a bit onerous at time. Other times, no, the work can feel good and harmonious, and still other times it can feel hard but I can feel good about it because it feels like good work. But there are days that just suck, and I don't think it's because either Cody or I are terrible people and/or terrible at marriage. Parenting is the same way. Sometimes it feels hard but good and other times it is just hard and I don't enjoy it one bit.

Perhaps relatedly, Zen I must thank you for your advice WRT Tryptophan. You were very helpful.


Pix - Mar 12, 2016 11:00:54 am PST #23584 of 30002
The status is NOT quo.

Nothing wrong with having a marriage that is work, in my opinion. If it's worth it, it's worth it. No judgment on my end.


Burrell - Mar 12, 2016 11:17:55 am PST #23585 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I wasn't feeling judged, Pix, but thank you. More that I felt it was necessary to state that saying marriage is hard sometimes isn't the same thing as saying marriage isn't worth it.


Zenkitty - Mar 12, 2016 11:52:09 am PST #23586 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Perhaps relatedly, Zen I must thank you for your advice WRT Tryptophan. You were very helpful.

Excellent, I'm glad!


Laura - Mar 12, 2016 11:52:13 am PST #23587 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Living with another adult human is hard, but the benefits are awesome. Kids, yeah there is a lot of hard work there.


beth b - Mar 12, 2016 12:30:58 pm PST #23588 of 30002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Thank you all. I have never felt like my marriage was hard work. There are times that are hard,but I'm never quite sure what people mean by hard work. Maybe because we have had enough struggles that i know we react differently when something difficult happens. It isn't easy , but I understand what is happening.


Hil R. - Mar 12, 2016 2:14:53 pm PST #23589 of 30002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I'm sick. Blah.

If I was married, then I'd have someone who could bring me Day-Quil and soup, I guess, to try to be on topic.