Now I am going to have to get some Teva sandals too. My toes require freedom, but the rest of my feet require cushion from the tiles.

eta: I have brow envy. I have no brows because they are too blond to be seen and when they are enhanced it looks shocking to me. Hence, bangs. Also, what Burrell said so well about the beauty of Liese.

so how we feeling about this, makeup people?

I love it!

Hmm, well, lessee...2013 brows: [link] Which is more extreme than the change I just made, obviously, but I had to go a bit back to get a similar angle.

Oh no, wait, I have a more recent one, here: [link] That's from September.

So here's the current, again, just so it's all in one post: [link] I moved the arch, basically, and changed the overall shape. And then I widened the space between and brought both ends in a little shorter so it was less scraggly. I dunno about all this stuff!

And anyway aww, thanks for the compliments, peeps.

Strong brow game, Liese! Looks sophisticated but not model-clone, still individual and You.

I like the arch!

Okay, big difference there. I like the new shape you have here. Bit of drama, even with very simple make up, so that's nice. I also like the one in the Sept 2015 pic, which looks like it may be closer to your natural line, just cleaner.

I am the lazy brow gal. I like my natural line so usually all I do is clean it up a bit, if that.

The one thing that drives me nuts about my brows is that they wing up at the ends. Like a Vulcan. I trim them and try to brush them into shape and it really never works. Makes me nuts.

Ok, yeah, that's all good feedback.

And yeah, mine require more than just cleaning it up! I used to refuse to do anything with them at all on race-based beauty standards premises, but also because it was the 90's and I would have had to do a ridiculous amount of plucking to get even close to what people were doing, whereupon it looked completely unnatural on me. I only started recently (well, you can see, with the dates of the photos) since the thicker "natural" brow was a more achievable target.

I know what you mean, meara, it's shaping the ends of mine that's causing all this strife! Ha! I pulled them in here, which I think is ok, but I'll have to live with it a while and see. I may split the difference.

Then next up I'll have to figure out my go-to glasses-friendly eyeshadow. These new glasses (super similar but still) are better, but I still have to figure out a balance where my eye stuff is visible within the context of the glasses but not overdone. I'm content with my contouring right now, although I'll have to tweak it a little for the new brows.

Liese, I like your brows here. The high point of the arch is over the center of your iris, which is more natural and a softer, more approachable look. The brow today is a straight upward diagonal, the high point of which is almost over the outside corner of your eye, which isn't as natural a curve. It flattens the bone structure across your eyes and brow, and is more severe. It's a good Dom look, actually. But otherwise, the brow should arch at no more than three-quarters of the width of the eye. More, and it tends to look more unnatural. IMO, of course.

Ok, see, this is why I have you people! So that shot is the other side, so lemme get one that's more head on so we're comparing apples to apples. Ignore the bloodshot, it's been a rough couple of days. [link]

The only one where you can see both brows in that March photoshoot is the fuck you shot, so forgive the attitude: [link] You might need to zoom for the comparison, or I could crop it. Maybe I should crop it. Here: [link]

So, what I was trying to do was the thing where you draw a line from the nose to the pupil to the tip of the arch. Although, I experienced some confusion about whether that meant the tip of the nose or the side of the nose and/or the outside edge of the pupil, etc. And I think because my eyes are so small and my brows so heavy maybe that advice isn't quite right.

So if I aim for 3/4's the width of the eye, I'd have to play with where it actually does go back down, I think. Which I think maybe would work now that the overall brow is thinner. Ok, I'll mess around with that next.

Thanks, Bev!

And sorry for clogging up the thread! If I had local girlfriends and/or aestheticians, I could work this out here, but I need y'all! Still amused that I'm learning how to do this at forty, but hey.