I like the arch!

Okay, big difference there. I like the new shape you have here. Bit of drama, even with very simple make up, so that's nice. I also like the one in the Sept 2015 pic, which looks like it may be closer to your natural line, just cleaner.

I am the lazy brow gal. I like my natural line so usually all I do is clean it up a bit, if that.

The one thing that drives me nuts about my brows is that they wing up at the ends. Like a Vulcan. I trim them and try to brush them into shape and it really never works. Makes me nuts.

Ok, yeah, that's all good feedback.

And yeah, mine require more than just cleaning it up! I used to refuse to do anything with them at all on race-based beauty standards premises, but also because it was the 90's and I would have had to do a ridiculous amount of plucking to get even close to what people were doing, whereupon it looked completely unnatural on me. I only started recently (well, you can see, with the dates of the photos) since the thicker "natural" brow was a more achievable target.

I know what you mean, meara, it's shaping the ends of mine that's causing all this strife! Ha! I pulled them in here, which I think is ok, but I'll have to live with it a while and see. I may split the difference.

Then next up I'll have to figure out my go-to glasses-friendly eyeshadow. These new glasses (super similar but still) are better, but I still have to figure out a balance where my eye stuff is visible within the context of the glasses but not overdone. I'm content with my contouring right now, although I'll have to tweak it a little for the new brows.

Liese, I like your brows here. The high point of the arch is over the center of your iris, which is more natural and a softer, more approachable look. The brow today is a straight upward diagonal, the high point of which is almost over the outside corner of your eye, which isn't as natural a curve. It flattens the bone structure across your eyes and brow, and is more severe. It's a good Dom look, actually. But otherwise, the brow should arch at no more than three-quarters of the width of the eye. More, and it tends to look more unnatural. IMO, of course.

Ok, see, this is why I have you people! So that shot is the other side, so lemme get one that's more head on so we're comparing apples to apples. Ignore the bloodshot, it's been a rough couple of days. [link]

The only one where you can see both brows in that March photoshoot is the fuck you shot, so forgive the attitude: [link] You might need to zoom for the comparison, or I could crop it. Maybe I should crop it. Here: [link]

So, what I was trying to do was the thing where you draw a line from the nose to the pupil to the tip of the arch. Although, I experienced some confusion about whether that meant the tip of the nose or the side of the nose and/or the outside edge of the pupil, etc. And I think because my eyes are so small and my brows so heavy maybe that advice isn't quite right.

So if I aim for 3/4's the width of the eye, I'd have to play with where it actually does go back down, I think. Which I think maybe would work now that the overall brow is thinner. Ok, I'll mess around with that next.

Thanks, Bev!

And sorry for clogging up the thread! If I had local girlfriends and/or aestheticians, I could work this out here, but I need y'all! Still amused that I'm learning how to do this at forty, but hey.

I have no opinion about brows. I DO have opinions about expensive but oh-so-worth-it flip flops. I love love love my Sanuks. They're made out of the same material as yoga mats, and a $45 pair will easily last me a year or two.

So if I aim for 3/4's the width of the eye, I'd have to play with where it actually does go back down, I think.

See, I don't think the high point of your arch is too far to the side. I like it.

I actually like it, too, but it is less "natural." This is making me want to clean up my scraggly brows. Having bangs means I kind of forget about them for long periods.

I think I mostly just love the intensity of the old "fuck you" photos!