This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?

Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 70: Hookers and Blow  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Jul 02, 2012 11:25:15 am PDT #12447 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Can't we all just get along?


Aims - Jul 02, 2012 11:30:16 am PDT #12448 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I know that certain people for several reasons have blanket hatred for any number of specific populations. However, I am wondering if they have given reasons for hating cis women? Not that I'm going to argue with their reasons, I'm just curious.


Amy - Jul 02, 2012 11:31:11 am PDT #12449 of 30001
Because books.

Where does "cis" come from? Is it short for something? I know what it means, I just can't figure out where the term originated.


Dana - Jul 02, 2012 11:32:44 am PDT #12450 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

I think the "cis" is the Latin prefix.

I am starting to get twitchy. Husband has to find a new job, we're going to have to move, and now I have the urge to throw out half of everything in the house.


Aims - Jul 02, 2012 11:33:08 am PDT #12451 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

According to wiki, cis- is the Latin antonym of trans and was first used in 1998 by a German sexologist.


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2012 11:33:13 am PDT #12452 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

No, clearly we cannot.

Now, if you were really pre-occupied by the meaning of the term cotton ceiling, Roz Kaveney (I'm not sure why so much stuff comes back around to her. She must talk a LOT) had an article in which she discussed the way that lesbian support of trans* people (women in this specific case) stops at the cotton panties--they're willing to advocate, but not to recreate. Trans* women aren't womanly enough for a lesbian.

Which...is pretty confusing. When someone says they'll never fall for an Asian guy, I get all bristly. But when someone says they'll never fall (all the way down) for someone born with a penis, whether or not they have one at the time, it sounds both different and very much the same.


Zenkitty - Jul 02, 2012 11:34:16 am PDT #12453 of 30001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I'd like to Favorite Calli's entire last post. Also the beet-goat and cheese avocado in SPACE conversation.

Almost three days of no AC in 90+ degree weather, it felt like a week. Last night I finally gave in and went over to my niece's to sleep. Then I felt stupid for not doing that sooner; it was fine. And she didn't even play loud heavy metal music except for about an hour while I was trying to fall asleep!

So basically, when civilization falls, it won't be bands of marauders, disease, or zombies that do me in; I'll die from the lack of air conditioning.


Amy - Jul 02, 2012 11:34:47 am PDT #12454 of 30001
Because books.

Thanks, ladies.

Husband has to find a new job, we're going to have to move, and now I have the urge to throw out half of everything in the house.

If you're going to move, it's not a bad idea. I hope he can find something soon, too.


Dana - Jul 02, 2012 11:35:21 am PDT #12455 of 30001
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

Well, what I mean is that I want half of the stuff in the house to disappear without my having to put out any effort.


§ ita § - Jul 02, 2012 11:36:04 am PDT #12456 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

However, I am wondering if they have given reasons for hating cis women?

The tumblrs I was reading were very much stating that there was no such thing as a cis self-defined trans* ally. I'm guessing the incidence of women claiming solidarity was higher than men doing so, and that's where the vitriol was levelled. I couldn't tell where some of these women that were being quoted went wrong, but the point is that I can't, can I?

And there seems to be an ongoing battle on tumblr between trans* women and radical feminists. Blood drawn, and bones broken, the whole shebang. I just landed on the radfem side of it today.