You walk in worlds the others can't begin to imagine.

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 69: Practically names itself.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 6:12:16 pm PST #5713 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

And, police have started using mace on the students downtown.


Aims - Nov 09, 2011 6:12:32 pm PST #5714 of 30001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

I've seen reports that he was very specific to Paterno about what happened. Not "possible sex abuse" but "a boy being raped."

Do you remember where? I'm asking because all I've read has said that the GA was vague in his conversation with Paterno.


bon bon - Nov 09, 2011 6:12:41 pm PST #5715 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

McQueary says he reported to Paterno what he saw. Paterno says McQueary just told him that "something" was going on, but no details.

I had read that what Paterno said to the grand jury is that McQuery reported that "something sexual" had happened. If so, that's the floor of what Paterno knew, which is damning enough; but it's hard to really confirm these details via google. Anyone know?

ETA: the lawyers, guns and moeny blog quotes: “fondling or doing something of a sexual nature” from the testimony by Paterno, but no cite to the testimony itself.


Amy - Nov 09, 2011 6:13:30 pm PST #5716 of 30001
Because books.

Do you remember where? I'm asking because all I've read has said that the GA was vague in his conversation with Paterno.

That was S. had read, too, but I don't know where.


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 6:15:25 pm PST #5717 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Here's all the local newspaper's coverage: [link]


sarameg - Nov 09, 2011 6:17:37 pm PST #5718 of 30001

I read somewhere that GA went to his dad and they together went to to Paterno. Not sure where either. In any case, uhg. Should have gone to police. And if they were afraid to, Paterno should have. and right up the food chain, they should have. Cowardice and CYA. No tolerance in my worldview for that. But what can I say, I'm a 911-trigger-happy gal. And somehow..


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 6:18:53 pm PST #5719 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I read somewhere that GA went to his dad and they together went to to Paterno.

He called his dad for advice on what to do, and his dad said to talk to Paterno, but the father didn't go with him to that meeting.


Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 6:19:40 pm PST #5720 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Also, reports from downtown say that police are using tear gas. This will not end well.


DavidS - Nov 09, 2011 6:22:44 pm PST #5721 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm asking because all I've read has said that the GA was vague in his conversation with Paterno.

Paterno has said he was vague. McQueary says he was specific. I'm not sure where I saw it. Just going through Google News.


Steph L. - Nov 09, 2011 6:23:13 pm PST #5722 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Also, reports from downtown say that police are using tear gas. This will not end well.

God, FUCK the students, too, and their ridiculous tiny worldviews. This is not about goddamn FOOTBALL. This is about human beings who were sexually abused but got ignored for years.