Here's all the local newspaper's coverage: [link]
I would be there right now.
Simon ,'Objects In Space'
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 6:15:25 pm PST #5717 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
sarameg - Nov 09, 2011 6:17:37 pm PST #5718 of 30001
I read somewhere that GA went to his dad and they together went to to Paterno. Not sure where either. In any case, uhg. Should have gone to police. And if they were afraid to, Paterno should have. and right up the food chain, they should have. Cowardice and CYA. No tolerance in my worldview for that. But what can I say, I'm a 911-trigger-happy gal. And somehow..
Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 6:18:53 pm PST #5719 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I read somewhere that GA went to his dad and they together went to to Paterno.
He called his dad for advice on what to do, and his dad said to talk to Paterno, but the father didn't go with him to that meeting.
Hil R. - Nov 09, 2011 6:19:40 pm PST #5720 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
Also, reports from downtown say that police are using tear gas. This will not end well.
DavidS - Nov 09, 2011 6:22:44 pm PST #5721 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'm asking because all I've read has said that the GA was vague in his conversation with Paterno.
Paterno has said he was vague. McQueary says he was specific. I'm not sure where I saw it. Just going through Google News.
Steph L. - Nov 09, 2011 6:23:13 pm PST #5722 of 30001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Also, reports from downtown say that police are using tear gas. This will not end well.
God, FUCK the students, too, and their ridiculous tiny worldviews. This is not about goddamn FOOTBALL. This is about human beings who were sexually abused but got ignored for years.
bon bon - Nov 09, 2011 6:26:44 pm PST #5723 of 30001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I suspect Paterno's statement is quoted in the grand jury presentment, but it has taken 15 minutes or so to download the pdf halfway. But when it does, I will let you know!
It's on page seven, but it's not directly quoted. Since it contradicts the McQueary testimony, I assume it comes from Paterno himself. So, he was told that McQueary witnessed something of a sexual nature with a ten -year-old, which seems to indicate that Paterno, by his own admission, failed at life.
brenda m - Nov 09, 2011 6:29:15 pm PST #5724 of 30001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
The grand jury report is on the WaPo site, though I don't have a link handy.
The GA also met directly with Schultz and Curley and testified that he was quite explicit about what he saw. The grand jury found him highly credible. Them, not so much.
Skimming the report, because it's ugly, it says the GA
"reported what he had seen" to Paterno. For S and C, it says "witnessed what he believed to be Sandusky having anal sex with a boy" in the showers.
I supposed he could have said something different to Paterno, though clearly he still said it was something sexual. But I don't see why.
le nubian - Nov 09, 2011 6:34:42 pm PST #5725 of 30001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
sister of one of the victims is having a tough time as a student at Penn State.
I think this is heartbreaking.
Strix - Nov 09, 2011 6:39:19 pm PST #5726 of 30001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
I...can't comment anymore on the Penn stuff.
Suzi, I am so sorry for you and for K-Bug. Good thoughts to you, my dear.
I love HFH generally, but my grandparents were the ones who started the HFH chapter in your fair city, Erin! So I like to read about what they're doing today.
Kate, I am sure they will still be working on it tomorrow. Are your grandparents still with you? I will be happy to take a picture! Heck, I'll take a carafe of hot cocoa down in your grandparents' honor.