My grandmother had eleven kids and they were all just fine. People with a lot of kids probably wanted a lot of kids.

Other people are paying taxes so she can do some of her shit. That's just how things go around. Though isn't it possible that she meant children were a lifestyle choice *and* human beings? They aren't inherently mutually exclusive, are they?

I have never resented paying the school portion of my property tax. I believe everyone benefits from an educated citizenry. I wish they were being better educated, but that's a different question.

I have whined a little when they announce federal tax breaks that seem specifically designed to not give a tax break to single, childless, self-employed people.

Nope, but I can't see the decision being made to crack down so hard without her okay.

Oh yeah, I was actually piling on with my comment - I am pissed that our stupid mayor isn't onsite to deal with her city. I love Oakland so, so much, but I detest the people in charge.

I hope that your Hubs is well soon, Fred.

The problem with saying kids are a lifestyle choice is that it's an incredibly privileged perspective - not everyone who wants kids is able to have them, and not everyone who has kids chose to do so.

True, Jessica. But it's the "in a perfect world" sort of privilege, isn't it? I think it's trivialising to refer to kids that way, but I just don't see where she said or implied they weren't people too.

It's probably just a poorly thought-out rant, flea.

I sometimes have that irritated feeling after spending more money on another baby gift or wedding shower that I need to throw a "not getting married or having children shower" and have everyone bring me presents just for being me.

And that's kind of dumb and reactionary. I'm also sometimes envious or those around me with families and just get a little assholey about it in my head and then feel guilty. I might be projecting my issues onto your friend.

Allyson, we have a lot in common in that regard.

Hey, has anyone else read the cover story of this month's Atlantic? So, so good. And made me feel a lot less conspicuous about being never married at 42.

I sometimes have that irritated feeling after spending more money on another baby gift or wedding shower that I need to throw a "not getting married or having children shower" and have everyone bring me presents just for being me.

FWIW, I am totally in favor of single childfree people throwing parties for themselves and getting presents.

FWIW, I am totally in favor of single childfree people throwing parties for themselves and getting presents

I'm totally throwing myself a housewarming party after I (a) sell my house and (b) buy a new one. Everyone is welcome to bring me gifts.