The problem with saying kids are a lifestyle choice is that it's an incredibly privileged perspective - not everyone who wants kids is able to have them, and not everyone who has kids chose to do so.
Natter 69: Practically names itself.
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True, Jessica. But it's the "in a perfect world" sort of privilege, isn't it? I think it's trivialising to refer to kids that way, but I just don't see where she said or implied they weren't people too.
It's probably just a poorly thought-out rant, flea.
I sometimes have that irritated feeling after spending more money on another baby gift or wedding shower that I need to throw a "not getting married or having children shower" and have everyone bring me presents just for being me.
And that's kind of dumb and reactionary. I'm also sometimes envious or those around me with families and just get a little assholey about it in my head and then feel guilty. I might be projecting my issues onto your friend.
Allyson, we have a lot in common in that regard.
Hey, has anyone else read the cover story of this month's Atlantic? So, so good. And made me feel a lot less conspicuous about being never married at 42.
I sometimes have that irritated feeling after spending more money on another baby gift or wedding shower that I need to throw a "not getting married or having children shower" and have everyone bring me presents just for being me.
FWIW, I am totally in favor of single childfree people throwing parties for themselves and getting presents.
FWIW, I am totally in favor of single childfree people throwing parties for themselves and getting presents
I'm totally throwing myself a housewarming party after I (a) sell my house and (b) buy a new one. Everyone is welcome to bring me gifts.
Squeezes in next to javachik and Allyson in the "where's my shower?" corner.
I do know that after I finish my degree, and get settled wherever I end up working in the library field, if I'm still not married, I'm going to put in a request with my parents for the money they've always promised me for my wedding. If I'm not married by age 50, I'll be going cheap with any future ceremony so I'm sure any spouse and I can pay for our own. However, I'd love to take my parents' money and use it for a downpayment on my own place. I think my sister did that when she bought her place when she was only 40.
FWIW, I am totally in favor of single childfree people throwing parties for themselves and getting presents.
It's so funny. I sort of had that idea about having a housewarming (for about 10 seconds) and then I was like "I just bought a fucking house. Some of my friends have trouble putting meals on their table. I don't need anyone to give me presents just because I bought a bigass present for myself!!"
I did love getting cards and good wishes from people, but the best part was just having a place for all of my friends to come together and hang out. And drink a lot. And listen to Matt and his friend play music. That was a pretty damned good gift.
(Uh, Consuela, my post was totally x-posted with yours. I will be happy to bring you celebratory items when you move!)
Hah, java!
Although you are totally correct about people who can't afford to buy gifts--and if so, they should not. I should hate to make anyone think they were obligated to do so.