Bye, now. Have good sex.

Kaylee ,'Jaynestown'


Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risqué (and frisqué), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


smonster - Nov 16, 2011 8:21:24 am PST #2898 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

And "spontaneous" becomes "unreliable."


Laura - Nov 16, 2011 8:21:33 am PST #2899 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

(obviously, chopped liver ... with no wine)

No! Most definitively not chopped liver, and a most excellent drinking companion.

Got pulled into a meeting and did the hit post and run thing.

Also, relationships hard. Whether or not that certain someone likes you isn't near as important in the long run as whether you like yourself.


DavidS - Nov 16, 2011 8:22:06 am PST #2900 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Doesn't work with a person who isn't very self-aware and doesn't KNOW who their best self is.

That's true, but lack of self awareness is going to be problematic in any relationship. I was just talking about it the other day with JZ about a friend of mine who had an endless capacity to bullshit herself. Just had no internal check to see when she was rationalizing, or fabricating things out of whole cloth. I've seen more very smart people completely sunk by this issue than anything else.

ION, this stir fry came out really good. Good job brain about adding that bit of apple juice to lighten the sauce and balance the spicy.


erikaj - Nov 16, 2011 8:24:30 am PST #2901 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I want one more shot. Because the last time I was somebody's girlfriend I was all apologetic and...insecure didn't cover it. I want to know what I could bring to relationship without that...it's like having to keep Hot Dog on A Stick on your job resume, otherwise.


Hil R. - Nov 16, 2011 8:41:22 am PST #2902 of 30001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

My plan for today was to teach for half the period and then give a quiz for the second half. After lecturing for five minutes, I realized I didn't have any more lung power for talking. So, they're getting lots of extra time on the quiz.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2011 8:44:20 am PST #2903 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Being in a relationship should change you.

Why? Why more than anything else? I mean, life changes you. You change with time. What's so special about a relationship that it *has* to change you? Your behaviours may change, but why does your core have to change?


DavidS - Nov 16, 2011 8:50:14 am PST #2904 of 30001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Why? Why more than anything else?

I didn't say more. Though it probably will change you more because it's a more active engagement with somebody. Relationships require work, effort. Those things tend to change you.

Your behaviours may change, but why does your core have to change?

I'm not sure how anybody defines their core. But I'm certainly not the same person at my core as I was before I met Jacqueline. Why should your core be static and unchanging? Why wouldn't you want it to grow? Growth is change.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2011 8:59:37 am PST #2905 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I get why it can change you. I don't get why it should change you.


-t - Nov 16, 2011 9:00:09 am PST #2906 of 30001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think the important difference is between Scenario A where someone loves you and you change and Scenario B where someone would love you if only you changed. Whatever the change involves. A is fine, B is fucked up. In my opinion.


erikaj - Nov 16, 2011 9:05:09 am PST #2907 of 30001
Always Anti-fascist!

I think so, too. But it's not like I know. My parents divorced, dad's in an epically unhappy second marriage, my grandma on the one side was happy for 8 sober years out of forty married to my grandpa, and on the other side? When she felt like leaving she got pregnant instead. When it comes to things like that, I'm like an inner-city child raised by television.