And I wonder, what possible catastrophe came crashing down from heaven and brought this dashing stranger to tears?

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Spike's Bitches 47: Someone Dangerous Could Get In  

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Maria - Jan 15, 2013 10:50:44 am PST #24972 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Precisely, Connie. I cannot say this anywhere else. While I no longer give a flying fuck what his parents think, if this was mentioned on FB, it would get back to them and restart the shitstorm. Nope. Not going there.

I'm tired of hearing how much I must miss him, and how wonderful he was--he was a good person, but no one else saw the Rob I saw. And sure as hell no one else had to deal with the fucking mess he left me. I'm tired of everyone assuming that we had a wonderful relationship, and I'm tired of being alone. Because I was alone long before he died.


Maria - Jan 15, 2013 10:55:28 am PST #24973 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

And I'm not absolving myself of any fault I bear in how our relationship turned out. He wasn't the devil, just like I wasn't an angel. But it's so damned complicated and I hate how it's sabotaging any movement forward.


Connie Neil - Jan 15, 2013 11:05:59 am PST #24974 of 30001
brillig

I'm tired of hearing how much I must miss him

I was thinking of that exact thing, about other people's expectations of your grief. And how your actual level of grief upsets their romantic notions. This is not an additional level of complication that you should have to deal with.


sj - Jan 15, 2013 11:10:09 am PST #24975 of 30001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

People have a way of turning people that they know that died into saints. I'm glad you feel you can talk about these things here.


Laura - Jan 15, 2013 11:12:49 am PST #24976 of 30001
Our wings are not tired.

I'm so sorry for the difficulty in moving forward, Maria. Relationships are always complicated, but that much more so when one of the parties dies. Please feel free to email me anytime. I have walked in your shoes and make a very good sounding board.


Glamcookie - Jan 15, 2013 11:14:24 am PST #24977 of 30001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Oh, Maria - how difficult for you. Nothing you've said makes you (or him) a bad person. It makes complete sense, and I can only imagine how conflicted you must feel about it now that he's gone. Please vent and process any time. We are all here for you.


Atropa - Jan 15, 2013 11:14:48 am PST #24978 of 30001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Maria, we're here for you. And if you want to email me, please do.

I'm tired of everyone assuming that we had a wonderful relationship, and I'm tired of being alone. Because I was alone long before he died.

My Dad is going through similar things. As much as I love(d) Mom, I now know that she was deeply unhappy, and that spilled over onto Dad. He misses her, and he always will, but he's lighter of spirit now.


Maria - Jan 15, 2013 11:20:05 am PST #24979 of 30001
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

He misses her, and he always will, but he's lighter of spirit now.

This. I am finally comfortable in my own skin for the most part, but that relationship did a number on me and I'm having trouble not ascribing his tendencies to other people. Which is not helpful.


Calli - Jan 15, 2013 11:48:50 am PST #24980 of 30001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

{{Maria}}

Steph, much liver~ma for your mom.

I agree that there are many Souths. I'm in a fairly liberal part of NC, but drive 20 minutes out of town and it's a whole different story. (My hometown in MI also had issues, and was arguably more racist than most parts of NC.) It's like I-40 is this artery linking up areas of mild-to-severe liberalism in an otherwise conservative state (voting maps usually reflect this). And there's a lot of NC that isn't near I-40.

Even in one of the more liberal towns (Durham), there were cross-burning problems in 2005. [link]

But Durham also has well attended gay pride parades and a strong African American political leadership. Chapel Hill has an openly gay mayor. [link] Carrboro's anarchists (among others) have brought CVS construction to a standstill downtown, and yarn-bombers roam the public spaces. While the state passed anti-gay legislation, my town voted against it by about 97%.


Beverly - Jan 15, 2013 12:39:14 pm PST #24981 of 30001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Steph, I forgot to actually articulate good wishes to your mom, from one iffy liver to another.

Maria, you can email me anytime, and I'll send my phone number if you want it.

The thing I've found is that the details of pre-and post-death management, other people's expectations, and my own disappointments, anger, resentment, build up into this wall, this--impenetrable barrier that's kept me from the good memories I do have, or would have, if I could just reach them. There's no way out but through, and I'm still working on it. It's hard. But if I can be of any help, I'm here.