I'm sorry. You were going to ask me to choose, right? Did you want to finish?

Zoe ,'War Stories'


Natter 68: Bork Bork Bork  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - May 06, 2011 3:53:21 pm PDT #7260 of 30001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I survived my first week at work! Despite some serious exhaustion yesterday and today, I made palpable progress on the starting assignments I've been given! And I'm getting paid for programming! Just like I should be!

I really can't use too many exclamation points to describe my exhausted joy at the moment. I'm going to watch Fringe and collapse into sleep....


sarameg - May 06, 2011 3:58:11 pm PDT #7261 of 30001

Man, FNL can really cast actors who do resemble their fictional family- Buddy Jr and Sr are uncanny.


Jessica - May 06, 2011 3:59:30 pm PDT #7262 of 30001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

380 to 80 to 81. Not a single travel plaza with food, and getting off the highway to eat would mean a significant chunk of time. 17 takes me through a couple of small towns with diners.


§ ita § - May 06, 2011 4:15:30 pm PDT #7263 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was looking at it because...I got no defense.

Wait! I got a defense. This (NSFW) Tim/Kon totally makes me giggle.

No, that doesn't work as a defense.

In a much more serious vein--has there ever been any correlation proven between the way a woman dresses and her risk of being victim of rape or sexual assault? I mean, are the jackasses that are saying "Dressed like that, she was asking for it" contradicted by numbers?


sarameg - May 06, 2011 4:19:24 pm PDT #7264 of 30001

Well, aren't the majority of sexual assaults committed by persons known to the victim? Which is flimsy correlation to contradicting that claim, but there's a line there.

And frankly, the whole statement pisses me off so goddamned much I'm moving into raaaage territory.


§ ita § - May 06, 2011 4:25:37 pm PDT #7265 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm actually engaging with someone I thought I got along with that's espousing that line of thinking, and I am in raeg, for sure. I had thought him a little stuffy about some shit, but this has incensed me.

I thought about most rapes being committed by known people, but I wasn't sure if date rape numbers might make the "dressed for it" douchenozzles feel they had a point.

Man, I want to go take part in a slutwalk.


Amy - May 06, 2011 4:26:07 pm PDT #7266 of 30001
Because books.

380 to 80 to 81.

We pick up 81 around Scranton, and you're completely correct. Even heading up into NY State there, you're out of luck. Sucks.


smonster - May 06, 2011 4:36:04 pm PDT #7267 of 30001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I don't give a flying fuck what the numbers say. "She was asking for it" is a bullshit defense that puts the blame on the victim. If someone leaves their front door unlocked, does that mean anyone who walks in and steals shit is not a criminal? If the douchenozzle you're talking to wears a Rolex, is he "asking" to get mugged, and therefore unable to prosecute?

Grandmothers get raped, kids get raped, prostitutes get raped, women get raped by their husbands, men get raped in prison (and elsewhere, to be clear). There is no "asked for it."

*ahem* Hello, choir, pardon the sermon.


Jesse - May 06, 2011 4:38:13 pm PDT #7268 of 30001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ita, I totally came across a product similar to that you linked to the other day, and had to share it with someone else, and we agreed it was way weirder/grosser than a fake peen, and I'm still not 100% sure why.

Also, there's a slut walk here tomorrow, apparently, but I'm not going.


§ ita § - May 06, 2011 4:44:32 pm PDT #7269 of 30001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But it's really simple to counter the "you can lower your risk of being assaulted by dressing differently" if the numbers support that. I don't assign blame to the rape victim, ever, but I'm trying to assemble arguments.

I've never seen anything cited that supports that dressing scantily puts you at more risk--just the assumption that if there are increased sexual feelings on the part of men, there's increased jeopardy. So I'm curious to see if that bears out.